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Old 06-26-2008, 05:55 AM   #11
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So I'm curious...how would you keep from dehydration doing that protocol? Is the enema effect a one-time deal and do you keep drinking plenty of water?
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Old 06-26-2008, 06:54 AM   #12
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Once you get to the loose bowel point from the megadosing, that means your body has reached the saturation point and can't absorb much, if any, more.

I have always read and been taught to stop at bowel tolerance. The cycle may be repeated the next day, taking a gram or two less than what reached bowel tolerance the previous day.

I can see no benefit to continuing to take the ascorbic acid past the loose bowel point...
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:01 AM   #13
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I feel a bit stupid now for doing a sloppy experiment... I did feel really good after the first 25 grams and I'd like to test it again with vit. C powder. It was too hard to tell with the tablets when to stop.
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:59 AM   #14
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I feel a bit stupid now for doing a sloppy experiment... I did feel really good after the first 25 grams and I'd like to test it again with vit. C powder. It was too hard to tell with the tablets when to stop.
No experiment is ever worthless....if you can take a lesson from it.

I only wish there was Vit C beer....as I would love to try mega dosing on that for "research"
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:25 AM   #15
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All first experiments are sloppy. Once they get refined a bit, they change from "experiment" to "protocol".

It's only a mistake if you refuse to learn from it. Sounds like you're doing just that. Don't be too hard on yourself.
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:53 AM   #16
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I did the flush this morning - this time by the book:

- Took 1 level tsp of pure ascorbic acid (3g vit.C) with 1/3 tsp. baking soda to buffer the acidity, in a glass of water, every 15 minutes. That's the recommended dose for a "moderately healthy" person - i.e. not "healthy" and not "sick" - which is where I judged myself to be since I'm recovering from mono.

- I started getting diarrhea after 4 doses (12g), but the "flush" effect only hit me at 10 doses or 30g vit. C. Let me tell you, it is unmistakable. I definitely didn't reach this point in my last experiment with vit. C tablets.

Conclusions? Well, I decided to do the flush today because I'm still feeling a bit off from last week when I taught the kids' Capoeira camp. I had to be up 4-5 hours before my normal waking time, slept less, compensated with caffeine (which I haven't touched in over 6 weeks), and did a couple extra Capoeira classes plus hill sprints with my very fit friend (that's what Ido's girls do when we want to bond ). "Feeling off" for me is being slightly depressed, low or no motivation to train, pretty much lack of motivation for anything. I woke up pretty blah today but after a few doses started feeling energetic, wide-eyed and alert, similar to the feeling of fasting.

I'll report later as to how long this effect lasts.

Also, for anyone interested in giving this a try, definitely use a buffered form of vit. C or add a buffering agent, or you will burn your rectum.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:18 AM   #17
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Also, for anyone interested in giving this a try, definitely use a buffered form of vit. C or add a buffering agent, or you will burn your rectum.
Impressive... not exactly sure I like the visual though.
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Gittit,
Please describe the "flush" effect more, if possible.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:30 PM   #19
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You're joking, right, Dr. G...?
Sorry Steven... I'm sure everyone has been through worse things in the quest for health
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:58 AM   #20
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The "fasting" feeling lasted only a couple hours after I stopped taking vit. C.
I don't know what kind of benefits I should be looking for, as all the reports I've seen seem to be just subjective feelings of "well-being" (which I'm not really feeling, myself). I did notice that my "wired-but-tired" feeling at bed time disappeared since I did the first flush and I have no trouble going to sleep, without changing any other factors. I don't know if they are really related.
I think there are three scenarios in which I'd do this protocol again:
1. If I have trouble sleeping again - just to test the hypothesis.
2. Acute illness. I'm long past the acute phaso of mono by now.
3. If I feel I need to get something out of my system (like a big cheat meal or a lot of caffeine... Though I'm not planning to do either). It definitely helped me flush away the after effects of too much coffee in the morning, the first time I did the flush.
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