June Poliquin Question of Strength @ T-Nation

[Gittit Shwartz]

Hmmm... Just to be fair to Ido, I used to type up his clients' programs for him. I've only ever seen him recommend >2g/lb in one case - that was a true hardgainer with a very high activity level who desperately wanted to put on mass. Even this guy started out at 2g/lb, but that only got him even leaner. And yes, at >2g/lb this guy's life was consumed by cooking, eating, and affording his protein.
With everybody else (goals being athletic performance or fat loss) I've never seen more than Poliquin recommended. I wonder in what context the 3g/lb Greg E. mentioned came.

[Greg Everett]

It came from a conversation I had with Ido about gaining weight.

[Derek Weaver]

Originally Posted by Mike ODonnell

3g/lb? That's some expensive peeing going on.....

To be honest... I don't want to know what would happen to/in my stomach at 3g/day. Not sure how anyone could afford it all that food, even/especially with shakes to supplement the intake.

[Allen Yeh]

If you were going that much above you'd have to have some digestive aids, I think Greg prefers ox bile?

[John Alston]

All this talk about 3g/lb and I can barely get to 200g total.

[Steven Low]

Originally Posted by John Alston

All this talk about 3g/lb and I can barely get to 200g total.

Psshhh... I'm thinking I *might* get .5g-.75g per lbs on a normal day. lol

[Darryl Shaw]

Originally Posted by Greg Everett

2g/lb/day is nothing. I know of one Poliquin coach (Ito Portal in Israel) who recommends 3g. That is the gnarliest thing to try to do ever. But he swears by it. Along with high dose BCAAs and colostrum. I'd be doing 660g/day. And I'd probably be shitting my guts out.

Whenever I hear a nutritionist recommend such a ridiculous amount of protein I can't help wondering how much money they've got invested in supplement companies.

http://www.nsca-lift.org/Perform/articles/PTJ060605.pdf

[Jordan Glasser]

Is it strange that I can get in 2g/lb without a problem? I do it a few days in a row, and I don't have much of an appetite. I actually find it harder on my system to consume high quantities of veggies then high quantities of protein. 5 blocks of cauliflower vs 5 blocks of steak? No brainer, fire up the grill. Maybe it's because I weigh 155lb, and spread over 4 meals getting between 250 and 300 g of protein isn't so hard.

[Peter Dell'Orto]

Jordan, I can do 1.5g/lb at around 188# with no problems. Getting 2.0g/lb is a little harder, if only because it's hard for me to spend the extra money and cram the food into my small fridge. But it's certainly doable for me if I try. 3.0 a pound would massively increase my food costs.

The veggies are harder. Not calorically dense at all, few carbs. I can eat all the veggies I want and still stay low-carb.

Same with calories. I love eating, and I can eat a lot. Get 4000 calories a day for mass gain? Yeah, generally not a problem (although it turns out I'm doing better on 3500). My problem generally is knowing what to eat for lean mass gain, not getting the food in.

[John Alston]

So if we're looking at ~ 270g (180 x 1.5) of protein, how do people do it?

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/protein-amounts-in-food/
Using this, a pound of beef has ~140g.

2 pounds of meat, depending on the animal and cut gets you pretty far. I guess that's not that hard. I may have been underestimating my intake.