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Old 07-18-2008, 09:29 AM   #21
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The problem is that people not taking responsibility.
I think it's a double knock out with lack of responsibility (which could come from the ongoing perception that nothing is our fault and it's because of your genetics that we are sick...which is a load of crap)....but also that the lack of real information to people (the people they listen to the most, aren't trained or schooled to really deal with lifestyle issues....or don't have the time to sit down and explain nutrition to people because the waiting room is overflowing with people).

Sad...but even if a doctor wanted to help...it's not going to work because they won't have the time.

That and most nutritionists I know are usually sick (on meds) and overweight too.

There's no shock value to meds also...they have been excepted as natural and safe just like air and water (I mean how could they be released to the public if they weren't safe right?)....we have been dulled to how potentially dangerous they really can be. Someone needs to stop allowing pharma to advertise meds on TV too....people holding hands smiling playing catch on the beach...while the background softly and quickly says "...may induce heart, kidney, lung and liver failure resulting in death.."...but images are more powerful and lasting than the words.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:48 PM   #22
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I agree. You'd probably get better compliance to tell a patient to take a pill once a day than to sit down and explain nutrition to them, get them to grasp it and then follow it.
A pill is so much easier all around.
What we need to do is make a pill that is real food shrunk down into capsule size. Take one, three times a day and you're set.
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Old 07-19-2008, 07:14 AM   #23
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I agree. You'd probably get better compliance to tell a patient to take a pill once a day than to sit down and explain nutrition to them, get them to grasp it and then follow it.
A pill is so much easier all around.
What we need to do is make a pill that is real food shrunk down into capsule size. Take one, three times a day and you're set.
slippery slope...isn't that exactly what we are trying to get away from?
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Yes, I was being facetious.
But I could understand why some doctors might just throw up their hands a write a script-not that I agree.
I like Jay Cohen's frequent statement "Eat real food."
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But I could understand why some doctors might just throw up their hands a write a script-not that I agree.
Having worked with a couple doctors I can tell you....after seeing 40 patients a day...working 10 hours a day doing paperwork for insurance....it's easier to give people a pill and send them on their way trying to ease their pain rather than take 10min and explain what they need to eat....because you are not going to get through to most people in 10 min. Hence I was the go to guy for that kind of advice....but since they had to pay for it, most people won't have any interest. Working directly with doctors.....helping them is what needs to be done...as I don't envy what they have to go through.

Another reason to tell people to always work with their doctor when trying to eat better and improve their health....so that when they do get in better health and hopefully get off medications...their doctor can see first hand what is working so he/she can recommend similar strategies for other patients.
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