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Old 07-25-2008, 09:48 AM   #11
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I ain't so skinny no mo. Just taking a little interval after a bunch of bulking. This is actually a lot of fun.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:52 AM   #12
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Now I'm hungry, you son of a bitch.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:23 AM   #13
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What the hell is a skinny bloke like you doing on the V-diet? You need to come to my house. I made this up while I was eating a half dozen eggs, some sausage, and leftover fajitas.

**A little boy asks Grandpa O’Malley, “Can I have five bucks to buy a guinea pig?”

“Here,” says the old man as he hands the boy a $10 bill. “Go get yourself a nice Irish girl instead.”
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:03 AM   #14
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How long is the program? I might be interested except I am also doing BJJ, would that mess it up?
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:46 AM   #15
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Brandon,

I've been keeping up with your posts on CF, P&B, here (I'm a bit of a professional lurker).

So, my question, why create a new "system" as oppossed to programming for your individual strengths/weaknesses and ultimately your own goals? I've been going down a similar path for awhile, so I speak from experience. I've never had a problem with CrossFit, I run an affiliate, and I love what it does for the people who train at my gym in that it meets their needs, goals, and keeps them motivated to boot. I simply wanted to get stronger faster than what CrossFit would allow, so I programmed accordingly. Does everyone share my desire to be a slimmed down version of Bill kazmaier? Nope. So I didn't make a system and see if others will do it, I programmed in a manner that would help me to acheive my own goals, just like everyone was doing before CrossFit.

Now, I can see if you were attempting to create a program that would achieve the goals of fitness that CrossFit aims to, only better. Bold move! But you've said that you don't agree with some pretty key points, namely the work capacity model. Cool. So clearly this program has some different goals (power, strength, with the ability to knock out some shorter metcons?) Are we saying that these are better goals that the ones CrossFit lays out? Yes, I know, the nice guys over at P&B said CrossFit was "teh ghey" will make you "suck at everything". but without starting a 300 post thread on the CF messageboard, I'm not buying it. If these goals are asserted to be better, we're going to have to know why!

Or is it that, like I've said, this is a program which just fits your interests a little better than CrossFit does at the moment?

Best of Luck,

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Old 07-25-2008, 12:02 PM   #16
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Yael, we're just going to test for a couple weeks I think, starting Monday...


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So, my question, why create a new "system" as oppossed to programming for your individual strengths/weaknesses and ultimately your own goals?
I'm prone to overanalysis and helping others. But if you'd like you can think of this as my own program and other people stole it from my vault. Makes no difference.

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Now, I can see if you were attempting to create a program that would achieve the goals of fitness that CrossFit aims to, only better. Bold move! But you've said that you don't agree with some pretty key points, namely the work capacity model. Cool. So clearly this program has some different goals (power, strength, with the ability to knock out some shorter metcons?) Are we saying that these are better goals that the ones CrossFit lays out?
IMO they're the same as the goals CF ORIGINALLY laid out, in the "What is Fitness?" paper and the like. I like those goals. It's different from CF's actual goals currently, meaning what the current WoDs aim for, which seems to be predominantly work capacity and getting really good at CF. I don't like those goals. So it's a bit of a throwback.

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If these goals are asserted to be better, we're going to have to know why!
As I talked about a bunch in that big thread, they are probably more useful for applications outside the CF world. Meaning a sport, or life, or whatever. But even if you don't think so, there are advantages, such as a more variable and interesting program. If nothing else I wanted something that can really be customized easily (without making people program from scratch).
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:44 PM   #17
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Start a workout log and call it a day.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:20 PM   #18
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Looks like people are getting fed up with silly rants on all the boards.

Seeing a tendency yet Brandon?
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:32 PM   #19
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"IMO they're the same as the goals CF ORIGINALLY laid out, in the "What is Fitness?" paper and the like. I like those goals. It's different from CF's actual goals currently, meaning what the current WoDs aim for, which seems to be predominantly work capacity and getting really good at CF. I don't like those goals. So it's a bit of a throwback."

Kinda like when FLDS broke off from LDS when they began to change doctrine? What will you call it? FCF (Fundamental CrossFit). I was wondering when we would see the first true denomination from the CF religion.

All jokes aside, I wish you all the best with you're program but it will be a hard sell around here w/o details. Hell, it would be a hard sell with details! Im w/Mr. Liberati, start a log and if its worthy, people will adopt it. Godspeed, Mike.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:17 PM   #20
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Wasn't trying to sell anything here, guys. Just asking for volunteers. Give it a rest.
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