Sleep why we need it! - Page 2

Allen Yeh · 12-20-2006, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pierre Auge

Oh it all makes far too much sense! Errrggg oh can I not be consistent for more than a week geeze!!!

Steve, I used to find the cold showers would work wonders for me, used too being the operative word, but not lately.

Robb,
do you figure a 14 block zone would set me straight? I weigh in the low 140's right now, and my activity level is picking up a bit.

Oh want to hear something funny? I ALMOST GOT RUN OVER BY A BUS!!!!!!!!!
About 10 minutes after speeking to you on the phone Robb I was walking down the street when a bus turned right into me actually brushing my face against the drivers window. Thank goodness for buses taking ultra wide turns because it only missed smoking me head on by about 6 inches...... I need to wake up, after some much needed sleep, my situational awareness is going right out the window...

Holy crap....dude that is seriously scary...talk about brushes with death. I hope you're able to get some sleep very shortly!

Scott Kustes · 12-20-2006, 05:10 AM

What helped me for awhile was attending the testicular cancer survivor's group. Then I had to come up with another cure....but the first rule is that I can't talk about it. And the second rule is that I can't talk about it.

Seriously, a few weeks ago I dialed my carbs WAY back from normal levels in a move to lower carb seasonal eating. For a few nights, I had trouble sleeping. I seem to remember something about insulin cascading into melatonin from Lights Out. Maybe Robb can jump in here on that.

Yael Grauer · 12-20-2006, 11:41 AM

I read somewhere that just one hit of starchy carbs can make the tryptophan you ate during the day more available, so you sleep better. There was a whole diet centered around that idea called "Potatoes not Prozac," but I don't know much about it.

I'm not a melatonin fan (since it's such a powerful hormone that can affect your entire metabolic cycle), but there's a difference between using 0.3 mg melatonin for 2 weeks or 1 mg for a few days, vs. 10 mg for 10 years. A small dose could be a good jump start. Anyone had any luck with 5-HTP? Nervines are good too. The combo of c, mg and zinc that Robb mentioned in his kick-ass article helped me a lot (elavated cortisol, anyone?) Working out before 1, being outdoors around noon (supesses melatonin), dimming the lights after sunset or at least for an hour before bed, having some kind of relaxing pre-bed routine for an hour or so, eating the last meal about 3-6 hours before bed (so as not to disrupt GH surges), slightly warm baths (cooled down a bit around the end) to cool down metabolism and relax the nervous system, nervine herbs, Jack Elias's CD on ending insomnia, meditating before bed (or at least getting vertical), etc. are some things to experiment with.

My only problem is that the more sleep I get, the more groggy/spacy/awful I look and feel the next day. So much for 9.5 hours.

Pierre Auge · 12-20-2006, 01:53 PM

Yeal,
I could eat a bowl of sugar right now and it wouldn't knock me out! I think beer might actually do the trick. But chances are that will screw me up even more!

I just need to get back into a regular routine, get my diet dialed back in like once upon a time and work to bring my activity factor back toward the 1.0 factor. Instead of the 0.4 factor...

Not that I've ever had a 1.0 activity factor