Giving the Anabolic Diet+ IF a run

[George Mounce]

Originally Posted by Trygve Lunde

carb day is finnished and i feel awfull. think im done with carb days for a while. think im going low carb all the way for some time now. the food doesnt taste that good anymore. bread, chocklade etc. i dont fansy it. That is a very good thing tho so i can get down to 5-6% body fat but will see, maybe on friday i want a new carb day. hopefully not

Could you not do a carb day without using a grain product as your carbs? Eat whole fruits and veggies, even some slow-cook oatmeal would probably do you a ton better than some bread and muffins.

I recently added slow-cook oatmeal to non-fast day breakfasts and it hasn't caused any bad stuff to happen so I'm going to black box that as an ok thing to have.

[Craig Brown]

Carbo loading without grains is a good thing. yams, fruit, etc. Top Notch (as Lemmy would say).

[joe waguespack]

My second carb day has begun. This time it is all oatmeal w/ bluberries, sprouted grain bread, and probably some sushi later on. I was reading up on the AD and carb laods in general and some were saying that fruit is not the best choice , especially at the beginning of the load due to the fact that it will work to replenish liver glycogen rather than muscle glycogen. I read this in another forum so I don't know how accurate this info is. Any thoughts?

I know I had my first meal of oatmeal, blueberries and cinnamon toast made with Ezekial bread and feel much better than I did last week after the pancake fest. I definitely think the clean load is the way to go.

[Trygve Lunde]

Originally Posted by George Mounce

Could you not do a carb day without using a grain product as your carbs? Eat whole fruits and veggies, even some slow-cook oatmeal would probably do you a ton better than some bread and muffins.

I recently added slow-cook oatmeal to non-fast day breakfasts and it hasn't caused any bad stuff to happen so I'm going to black box that as an ok thing to have.

i know, but i really like bakery goods

[George Mounce]

Originally Posted by Trygve Lunde

i know, but i really like bakery goods

But you also really like to feel awful it seems.

[Jane Michel]

Originally Posted by Trygve Lunde

i think the carb day is also very psycologicaly good. its so easy to eat low carb and fast during the week and know that on saturday im going to enjoy myself. So at the end of the week im starting to search the internet for great recpies or walking around the stores looking for some good carby stuff to buy on my carb day. but im a food wreck so that probably isnt normal.

Thank goodness you posted this. I thought I was the only person that drooled at food porn and looked up receipes and stared longingly at boxes of biscuits and loaves of bread and tubs of icecream and planned a great carb (coma) feast towards carb-up day.

[Craig Brown]

For me it seems like grains are the main evil. Ice cream- fine. Yams- fine. Apples- fine. Bread? Not so good. I am feeling much better adding milk and hard boiled eggs here and there instead of protein shakes.

[Trygve Lunde]

Originally Posted by Alicia Zhuang

Thank goodness you posted this. I thought I was the only person that drooled at food porn and looked up receipes and stared longingly at boxes of biscuits and loaves of bread and tubs of icecream and planned a great carb (coma) feast towards carb-up day.

lovely to hear

[joe waguespack]

Whole laod was done with oatmeal, blueberries, sprouted grain bread, sushi and half a pint of ice cream at the very end. I felt fine all day, no bloat or sick feelings and I only gained 5 lbs this week instead of 18 like last week. I took in a total of about 500g carbs from 95% clean sources and it definitely made all the difference in the world.

[Craig Loizides]

Joe,
Here's my take on the fruit issue. Most fruits and vegetables are roughly 50% glucose and 50% fructose. The glucose can be used by the liver or muscles. The fructose can only be used by the liver. Once liver stores are full (about 100 g) additional fructose is converted to fat. The majority of the carbs in a carb load (or any moderate to high carb diet) should probably be starchy carbs.