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Old 10-13-2008, 01:12 PM   #11
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Get Smart... Don Adams... you're all making me feel like I'm old or something.
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:33 PM   #12
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If I was fresh, I could only do about 4 kipping muscle-ups in a row. That being said, I can do a pretty slow deadhang muscle-up, I do still pike a small bit in my hips on the way up (right before the transition). I'm working on that.

I really concentrate on keeping the rings super-tight against my chest for almost the whole transition. Being strong at the very bottom range of a ring dip would be the best bet, I think. Most people do their dips way too short and miss that range--it is very important for this particular move, being that it is a dead start dip from the very bottom. Rarely do I see people go deep enough on their dips--the front of the shoulder should at least get to the level of the top of the ring, preferably slightly lower.

Get that down and I'm sure you'll have no problem.
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:38 PM   #13
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I can do a big boy's mu @ 230+ lbs
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:19 PM   #14
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Try doing a couple slow muscle-up negatives a few times a week.
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:59 PM   #15
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You skinny little bastard, Derek. I dislike being fooled...I dislike less reading things when fully fresh. grr

Julius, I've been using a flat bicycle tube per a suggestion on a thread at Sommer's forum. It kind of works. I hang it roughly off the dip bars on my pullup-dip tower as the rings are hung around that height. I couldn't get the tube to work while trying to hold it somehow though.

Garrett, perhaps I will have to re-examine how low I dip when I train dips. I typically train them deep but I'm sure if my shoulders aren't loose I can't get super low. I'll need to remember stretching them out in the WU at the bottom of the dip.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:02 PM   #16
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I want to see both kipping and deadhang attempts.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:01 AM   #17
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Blair,
Just a thought, the stretching you wish to try in your WU might be best done on the P-bars, simply due to the fact that the "instability" of the rings may inhibit your stretching fully.
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:36 PM   #18
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Man, I read this thread and read about Derek et. al (Leo you big bugger) and go home and look at my rings and just laugh.

I'm not freakin worthy. I'm simply happy to do dips, pullups and the like on my rings.

Awesome work everyone.

All the best,
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:03 PM   #19
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My bad, Garrett. My pullup tower is the same over at Beastskills.com. I can stretch the bottom of the dip on the PB/dip bars and do chicken wings/upper arm shrugs besides hanging in all grips including the ulnar PB grip. That's what I did the other day.

I really don't have stability problems on rings unless I'm feeling weak or ultra fatigued. Deep turned out dips are a matter of strength for me. I have been thinking about trying dip swings on rings to see if they are faster/easier than regular dips in workouts.
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:40 PM   #20
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muscle-ups are tricky, especially for me. a month ago I tried to do them for about an hour straight and did 4 deadhangs. tried again in 3 days and could barely get near the transition point. I haven't tried them in a while but every time I tried to do them after that day I couldn't come close. really made me wonder how the hell I did 4 that one time a month ago.
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