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12-31-2006, 11:10 AM
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New Issue & New Publish Date
Issue 24 - Jan 2007 is available now. We've changed our publish date to the 1st of the month.
Pivoting & Pressure
Roy Dean
Body mechanics for grappling
The Snatch: Part I
Greg Everett
The next installment of the Coaching the Olympic Lifts series
Kettlebell Power-Metrics
Jason C. Brown
Three ways to improve the power of your kettlebell training
The Floor Press
Steve Shafley
A look at the often overlooked movement
Cooking with Scotty
Scotty Hagnas
Brussels Sprouts and Pecans
Spanish “Rice”
Curried Chicken Salad
Imperial Chicken Salad
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12-31-2006, 12:40 PM
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Great issue, as usual.
Greg, I have a question for you, though.
I usually have my athletes do the Burg warm-up starting from the power position (vertical dorso, small dip) rather than mid-thigh.
We practice the transition (AKA the scoop) during different phases of the warm-up.
The reason I have them do the dip/shrug, dip/shrug/pull, and muscle snatch from the power position right from the get-go is that so many of the athletes I work with, particularly if they deadlift and KB-swing a lot prior to learning the Oly lifts, tend to introduce way too much horizontal displacement of the bar into the second pull. So I spend a lot of time de-training that tendency. And thus I have them do the Burg w-u from the power position.
Are there any drawbacks to the approach I'm using, or am I just splitting hairs (as I'm wont to do)?
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12-31-2006, 12:47 PM
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How you teach it really will depend on the needs of the athlete. If you have folks as you describe, doing it as you're doing it is a good idea initially. Eventually, I would try to progress them to including the scoop--they'll have to do it at some point, so drilling it, especially if it's a problem spot, will be necessary.
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12-31-2006, 12:57 PM
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I will have a video piece on YouTube up demonstrating the floor press used during an actual workout. Maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow.
I had meant to get it done earlier, but my house has been extremely chaotic the last 3 days.
Since I am doing absolutely nothing tonight for New Years, the vid will be up shortly. Check here:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=SShaf
Look for Shaf's Vblog #10. Should be up in a half hour or so. |
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01-01-2007, 05:53 AM
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01-01-2007, 07:26 AM
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01-01-2007, 08:17 AM
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Steve: Great demo. I appreciate the multiple angles. Also good to see you back to your usual intros (despite what your friends on P&B have to say about them, haha).
Looks like a solid PM issue overall.
Mike: And I thought I was the only one who worked out to that song...it's a small world.
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01-01-2007, 12:05 PM
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Mike,
I see why you're distracted.
Steve,
how do you do it without a power rack? (I know how I just want to see you do it! I know I'm a jerk...)
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01-01-2007, 01:28 PM
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Pierre...really, you've hit on one the biggest problems with working the lift heavily.
The big issues are getting the bar into position safely, and the second is how to miss. I should have considered those issues for the article.
In the vid you see that I let the bar fall forward towards my head when I miss. If you have adequate control of the bar when you miss, but lack spotting bars, then you can guide the bar to fall towards the neck (most people can fit their heads UNDER a standard sized olympic bar with 45 lb or 20kg plates, so the bar won't strike your head when it drops. You can let it drop the other way, if you are thin waisted enough so you don't mangle yourself.
Alternately, you could have two small platforms on either side where the plates rest so that the bar is just a slight bit below the bottom position of a lift. Building up various layers of wood would be a hassle, but could be doable, given the strong desire to perform the lift.
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01-01-2007, 02:07 PM
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Steve,
I'll post a video of how I do it but I must admit that at my body weight misses aren't a problem, because I can move it to my waist and it wont break anything.
I mount the bar the same way as Arthur Saxon used to teach it with a prelvic thrust/push/pull. Works well.
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