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Old 11-06-2008, 08:27 AM   #11
Gavin Harrison
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Some conditioning may be useful, but only the context of increasing the amount of work your can do specifically towards your goals. Intervals are probably great for this, without getting in the way of what you want to do. Increased work capacity = more energy to spend in the gym + quicker recovery out of the gym = more fun
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:05 AM   #12
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hey alan!

why dont you talk to neal? join us lifters pre-6 pm class - or if another time during the day when the gym isnt packed (i.e., 6 AM) - and just do your own thing. he is all for strength and gymnastics, and im betting he will work with you to figure out a solution. we had the "weightlifting club" - which is essentially what you want - but we didn't have enough interest to keep it going. (obviously, most people who come to crossfit want to do crossfit metcons!)
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:13 AM   #13
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This is all great advice. I have very little to add.

Do what you enjoy. If you have a goal, strive for that goal.

I'm a middle aged walking port-a-john that can lift really heavy stuff and wield an axe with the best. I want to have some less than port-a-john like qualities as I advance in years.

You like gymnastics and weights. Nothing wrong with that. I would find a way to get some met-con through those two.

I hate running. Do I run - no. I do extended sets of kettlbell exercises (snatches, swings, long cycle clean and jerk - Grivory sport). I do some strong man movements (nothing like a good carry, drag and log to make you feel human - takes about 90 seconds to complete, but man your heart rate is at 180 for a long time afterwards. Actually, a lot of the strongman movements for 90 seconds are awesome met-con - trying clean and pressing 135 pounds for maximum reps in 90 seconds. Or something like that.

I even enjoy doing my olympic lifting drills with light weights for extended number of sets for limited repetitions. I recently did 11 sets of 3 with 135 on tall snatches. I rested about 25 to 30 seconds between sets. I had to do the last two sets of full lifts as I was completely hammered. That's about as close to Isabel or whatever it's called for a while. The heart rate stayed at 130 and higher for the entire duration of the session. It was awesome. Didn't keep track of time, but I might next time.

I also do my event training as met-con. It's awesome.

Just throwing things out there that you can do as met-con, that falls within the parameters of the stuff you enjoy. The met-con, as I see it, is for fitness.

If you want the beefcake, that's your perogative. Don't feel like less a person for admitting it. I too was there when I was single, young, and had higher androgen levels.

They say age breeds wisdom. I say age causes naturally declining testosterone levels which brings about wisdom, common sense and an understanding of reality. But that's just me.

All the best,
Arden
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:10 PM   #14
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Hey EC

I'll talk to Neal, pre-6pm sounds good.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:05 PM   #15
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hey alan!

why dont you talk to neal? join us lifters pre-6 pm class - or if another time during the day when the gym isnt packed (i.e., 6 AM) - and just do your own thing. he is all for strength and gymnastics, and im betting he will work with you to figure out a solution. we had the "weightlifting club" - which is essentially what you want - but we didn't have enough interest to keep it going. (obviously, most people who come to crossfit want to do crossfit metcons!)
What the hell? I give you a plug and you ostracize the lifters? People who want to move the iron have to get there at 6 am? You need to end that discrimination right now! Have the metcon fools come up at 6 am; they're gluttons for punishment.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:47 PM   #16
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I don't dislike met-cons, I just don't do them often because it's hard to put them in a lot of the times in my training schedule. I need to work on strength mostly, but I also need to work on endurance and power.

There's a time and place for met-cons, maybe 3 or 4 a month, but even then I don't get that many in, and I try to train at least 20-23 days a month. Sometimes I'm up for trashing myself to the point where I can't remember what the last 2 minutes were, but I think it's best to be mentally into what you want to do for training that day instead of following crossfit or whatever, but that's my opinion. I get the whole hopper concept, but if you're not a crossfit athlete it really doesn't help you to trash yourself that much if you can't even get your sport specific stuff done as well
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:25 PM   #17
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What the hell? I give you a plug and you ostracize the lifters? People who want to move the iron have to get there at 6 am? You need to end that discrimination right now! Have the metcon fools come up at 6 am; they're gluttons for punishment.
huh? i think you misunderstood. 6 AM is when one of our crossfit classes occur and it is the most crowded. they have priority to weights/bars.

pre-6 PM class is when i suggested to alan.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:45 AM   #18
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huh? i think you misunderstood. 6 AM is when one of our crossfit classes occur and it is the most crowded. they have priority to weights/bars.

pre-6 PM class is when i suggested to alan.
Excellent! The feud is over.

I still suck at rowing. Just not as bad.
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