This whole thread was based on beliefs that can not be proven....so keep that in mind. I never intended to back up anything I said with proof, that wasn't the point.
Originally Posted by Neal Winkler
I think the body can heal and prevent a great many illnesses, but to say ALL is bit much, and you admit that your belief that it can is irrational.
The body has healing potential possilbly more than anyone will ever find out because we are not able to maximize it for whatever reason. Are there people in the Alps curing early stages of cancer with juice fasting and rest for months? Maybe...I've heard the stories but I can't prove it. Can someone cure bad eyesight with deep breathing and ZMA? I'll guess no. To say all is a bit much, but it's a basis for a good outlook on having control of health. Maybe I should of said "most common diseases that are not life threatening".
As far as "what is a disease", medicine terms a disease to a set list of symptoms and conditions. So if you no longer have those symptoms and conditions do you still have a disease? This is where I think medicine does a disservice. As soon as someone hears they have a "disease" then they lose hope of good health, feeling it is never going to go away. However if you told people you have say "inflammation" rather than arthritis, can we treat and remove/control inflammation? Sure. Anyways...side rant.
If a belief is irrational, then you shouldn't hold the belief. I'm not saying that your are dumb Mike, but to admit that you hold an irrational belief and not change it is basically admitting that your dumb.
I've pretty much spent alot of revisions on how to comment on this......but it comes down to my belief system may not agree to your predetermined rational approach to the subject. That is ok. You hear disease and think "Cancer" or "Aids" and I may have been thinking more along the lines of "Arthritis" or some lesser degree of illness. However to see the body heal at a small level, I can still believe that "maybe it is possible" to heal at the larger level. Now if you want specific answers you have to ask specific questions. As we learned we both agree Germs have a hand in sickness, but the degree of which can be debated. Now same goes for illness. What degree is actually healable? That is the million dollar question that as far as I know, no one has the answer. Would I tell a cancer patient to not go see a doctor and go drink my brand of sunshine and lollipops? Hell no. (and please note....I may have added a little sarcasm in saying all my beliefs are irrational...I have that personality trait). Can I give an arthritis patient hope in healing that they do not get from their doctors? Sure, I do that every day. I don't tell them to stop taking pain medication, but I tell them that we have a chance to reduce and control inflammation. So is that still dumb? Am I still irrational?
If so....then this is the point in hockey where we throw down gloves and let the haymakers fly for 30 sec....and then drink beers together after with missing teeth and black eyes.