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Old 12-12-2008, 02:28 PM   #21
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interesting, i dont like olives but can u really cook or fry with water? that would be awesome so i can use my fat to other tasty stuff like nuts etc

Even if you ate the olives you wouldn't be getting much of any fat from them - in this sense, olive oil is much like other vegetable oils. But yeah you can cook with water, I do so all the time for the same reason -- to eat tasty stuff like nuts or cheese. Although I put some minced garlic on the pan as well... the kind you can buy from stores as it has a runny texture to it anyway. Otherwise I just use some butter.

Why waste fat calories on an unnatural and expensive, bad-tasting oil?
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:01 PM   #22
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unnatural? How so? Its just a group of olives pressed together to extract the oil.

bad-tasting? I guess thats kind of subjective...I love the taste of EVOO...

expensive? you got me there :P the stuff is downright pricey.
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:16 PM   #23
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I though this was about raw food... But in any case, why do you need oil to cook? I've got a stovetop griddle/BBQ thing so no oil needed. But most meat have enough oil to cook without added oil, or an I just using fatty cuts?

I'll use butter for my omlettes, but I'm with that other guy about vegetable oils, i just stay away from em.

And, if you were wondering, I'd attribute all the muscle loss/higher bf to running than on the fruit. When I found CF and powerlifting while switching over to agility, I started to put on muscle and lose fat right away ok the same diet.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:55 AM   #24
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Stopping cooking is like trying to go backwards evoltionarily.
Why don't you just start walking on all fours, too?
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:04 AM   #25
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er...while i get your point, QM (quadrupedal movement - walking on all fours) is actually really beneficial :P
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:07 AM   #26
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Stopping cooking is like trying to go backwards evoltionarily.
Why don't you just start walking on all fours, too?
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...-bigger-brains
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0810064914.htm
Right on. You should preach this to those who down a gallon of green juice a day...they're putting in an abnormal amount of greens into their system at a time for probably zero health benefits - so, what's the point? ha ha
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Old 12-13-2008, 03:03 PM   #27
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that was lovely to hear, i really love cooked food, but fresh fruit is the best i guess? or should you cook fruit aswell?
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:39 PM   #28
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that was lovely to hear, i really love cooked food, but fresh fruit is the best i guess? or should you cook fruit aswell?
You're not serious are you?

Cook your flesh foods. Eat the others (fruits and vegetables) raw. Enjoy your food and your life.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:00 PM   #29
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You're not serious are you?

Cook your flesh foods. Eat the others (fruits and vegetables) raw. Enjoy your food and your life.
Seriously.

I mean, I am following a modified/loose IF diet of high protein and fat, and trying to keep carbs to a minimum. But, if someone is grillin burgers, I just make sure ive got more steak than bread.

Enjoy your food, is it really worth turning it into such a scientific, super strict diet? There are a lot more important things to worry about.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:53 AM   #30
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Enjoy your food, is it really worth turning it into such a scientific, super strict diet? There are a lot more important things to worry about.
I always say....never trust anyone who doesn't have a beer. Live life...be healthy...and just enjoy what you do. Many people are so worried about not dying or being sick nowadays they forget to actually live in the first place.
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