thoughts/questions on conditioning

[Brian Stone]

As another note on this: Does anyone know what kinds of resting heart rates are commonly seen in advanced Crossfitters? This may vary greatly, but I'd be interested to know if a heavy interval workout would produce a low resting HR. That would seem to call the hypothesis presented herein into question.

[Anton Emery]

Yea, that would be interesting to see. Maybe i will ask Scott Hagnas here at CF Portland what his RHR is. He has some damn good scores on alot of the CF workouts.


Anton

[Donald Lee]

Originally Posted by Anton Emery

Yea, that would be interesting to see. Maybe i will ask Scott Hagnas here at CF Portland what his RHR is. He has some damn good scores on alot of the CF workouts.


Anton

Mine was pretty high, 58-60s, but I haven't done CF in a while.

I'm gonna do some LSD in the 120-150s zone and see what happens.

[George Mounce]

Originally Posted by Brian Stone

As another note on this: Does anyone know what kinds of resting heart rates are commonly seen in advanced Crossfitters? This may vary greatly, but I'd be interested to know if a heavy interval workout would produce a low resting HR. That would seem to call the hypothesis presented herein into question.

Straight CrossFit for 1 1/2 years: 48-52

Not CrossFit before..., not CrossFit now: 48-52

My times weren't the best in everything but I did have a pretty awesome Michael time as that was my favorite workout - and it involves a lot of things done at bodyweight, instead of the move a heavy weight around. Ask Gant what his is, he does heavier short timed metcons.

I can also zazen my way to about a 32 bpm heart rate if I so desire - freaks out techs for my annual physical.

[Donald Lee]

Originally Posted by George Mounce

Straight CrossFit for 1 1/2 years: 48-52

Not CrossFit before..., not CrossFit now: 48-52

My times weren't the best in everything but I did have a pretty awesome Michael time as that was my favorite workout - and it involves a lot of things done at bodyweight, instead of the move a heavy weight around. Ask Gant what his is, he does heavier short timed metcons.

I can also zazen my way to about a 32 bpm heart rate if I so desire - freaks out techs for my annual physical.

48-52 is really good. Joel, the 8weeksout guy, recommends about 45-low 50s for MMA guys.

[Brian Stone]

Originally Posted by Donald Lee

48-52 is really good. Joel, the 8weeksout guy, recommends about 45-low 50s for MMA guys.

Right. That's actually where I'm coming from in my comparison.

Originally Posted by George Mounce

Straight CrossFit for 1 1/2 years: 48-52

Not CrossFit before..., not CrossFit now: 48-52

Did your Non CrossFit activity have a bias (assuming you had a workout program)? Did you favor one or the other of MetCons or LSD efforts? As Donald noted, that is the range where Joel suggests fighters can live, but he also suggests that most need to do aerobics to get there.

His notes on heart development are intriguing and make a good case.

[George Mounce]

Originally Posted by Brian Stone

Right. That's actually where I'm coming from in my comparison.



Did your Non CrossFit activity have a bias (assuming you had a workout program)? Did you favor one or the other of MetCons or LSD efforts? As Donald noted, that is the range where Joel suggests fighters can live, but he also suggests that most need to do aerobics to get there.

His notes on heart development are intriguing and make a good case.

Before CF, I favored either running or playing hockey a lot. I didn't know what the word metcon was before I found CF.

Now - I do HIIT twice a week, and a slow run or major yard work on Saturdays.

[Brian Stone]

I was thinking about this today and had another thought:

Does anyone know if there is a relationship between lean body mass and resting HR? It seems logical to me that, with muscle actively consuming oxygen even when not actively being utilized, a higher demand on blood oxygen would inherently be present in individuals with larger muscle mass. I considered that this effect could possibly be negligible except in the most extreme cases, but those very cases lead me to suspect that there is a consequential effect to even smaller amounts of muscle mass on resting HR.

I googled this and didn't immediately find anything of use. Any have any thoughts or, better, articles that discuss this? I'd be interested as it would definitely be a consideration when setting a personal target HR.

[Steven Low]

Hmm, interesting observation Brian. Maybe...

My RHR is ~70/min... I've always been pretty high. I am pretty "out of shape" in terms of metabolic endurance and HIIT b/c of the knee though so that's obviously a contributing factor. Once I start up some HIIT again it should be interesting to see if it drops at all. I am probably around like 5% BF or something though so it's certainly possible that it could have an effect from what you observed. Shrug.