Home   |   Contact   |   Help

Get Our Newsletter
Sign up for our free newsletter to get training tips and stay up to date on Catalyst Athletics, and get a FREE issue of the Performance Menu journal.

Go Back   Catalyst Athletics Forums > Training > Fitness, Strength & CrossFit

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-15-2008, 11:05 AM   #1
Grissim Connery
Senior Member
 
Grissim Connery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 624
Default Manna

So i'm a novice at gymnastics. i've been busy developing the fundamental static holds amongst other motions since early summer and am cruising fine. i think the manna is just badass. i would like to set a goal for this motion. i really don't feel like giving all my stats on a lot of motions and i understand that some people will just get it faster than others, but i was curious about some kind of ETA. is one year with dedicated work reasonable or is this hold more like 2 years or so.

would it be better to have a solid f. lever, b. lever, straight and straddle L on the rings, planche and handstand before focusing on the manna?
Grissim Connery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 02:06 PM   #2
Chris H Laing
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 904
Default

I'd say definitely have a solid L sit and handstand, but it would probably be easier to get a manna than a planche, in my opinion. All that other stuff would probably be helpful but i wouldnt think necessary.

It could probably be done in a year with dedicated practice. You could look at stevens log for some ideas on training it. He's been working on it for a little and i bet he'll have it way before a year.
__________________
My Log
Chris H Laing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:00 PM   #3
Steven Low
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,091
Default

No, I would recommend integrating it with your training.

Work on all of these skills at the same time:
L-sit, handstands, press handstands, planche, front lever, back lever, manna

Variations of these + dips and pullups and possibly some other stuff will be good.

Manna is a good compliment to offset the amount of pushing work people inevitably will do especially with planche and handstand work. From my experience so far it rips up the posterior delts and triceps like no other plus it does have a nice benefit of some core work.
__________________
Posts NOT intended as professional medical, training or nutrition advice.
Site // Bodyweight Strength Training Article // Overcoming Gravity Bodyweight Book
Steven Low is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:08 PM   #4
Jason Tanner
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 30
Default

If you have Coach Sommer's book it goes into great detail of manna progressions. I'm not sure I can give a ETA in how long it takes. My guess would be looking into those progressions. L-sit or V-sit work could also possibly help. Not sure though, any other opinions?
Jason Tanner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 06:21 PM   #5
Jason Tanner
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 30
Default

Steven beat me to it, better put anyways.
Jason Tanner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 11:07 PM   #6
Blair Lowe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 593
Default

Coach Sommer's manna article has been posted at gymnasticbodies.com a few months ago, I think.

How long it will take is dependent mostly on your active flexibility in your hip flexors. The flexibility component is a lot more difficult to train than the strength.
Blair Lowe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:07 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Subscribe to our Newsletter


Receive emails with training tips, news updates, events info, sale notifications and more.
ASK GREG

Submit your question to be answered by Greg Everett in the Performance Menu or on the website

Submit Your Question
WEIGHTLIFTING TEAM

Catalyst Athletics is a USA Weightlifting team of competitive Olympic-style weightlifters with multiple national team medals.

Read More
Olympic Weightlifting Book
Catalyst Athletics
Contact Us
About
Help
Newsletter
Products & Services
Gym
Store
Seminars
Weightlifting Team
Performance Menu
Magazine Home
Subscriber Login
Issues
Articles
Workouts
About the Program
Workout Archives
Exercise Demos
Text Only
Instructional Content
Exercise Demos
Video Gallery
Free Articles
Free Recipes
Resources
Recommended Books & DVDs
Olympic Weightlifting Guide
Discussion Forum
Weight Conversion Calculator