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Old 01-13-2007, 07:02 AM   #11
Jay L Swan
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Greg--I think all of those things change slightly, but not dramatically. I can also front squat, overhead squat, and deadlift with no problems. My deadlift is substantially stronger than my squat, if that helps clarify things. I also have abnormally short legs for my height (inseam 30", height 5'10"+).

Here's a photo. This is on the way back up. Bottom for me is a few inches lower than this, with the top of the thigh at or just breaking parallel.

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Old 01-14-2007, 07:50 PM   #12
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Hi folks--first time poster here. I used to follow the Crossfit forum quite some time ago, but ended up here for the same reasons that many others have.

I have just started experimenting with the low-bar back squat and have a few questions:

1) How do you keep the bar from slipping down your back as you get further into the set?

2) While the low bar position feels much better on my back and legs, the arm position is painful. Any tips on this?

3) My "gym" does not have a proper power rack, only one of those squat-rack things with the angled bars and multiple pegs. Any tips to avoid amputating my fingers while putting the bar back in the rack?


1. You need to slightly lean forward to keep the bar from slipping
2. Use a widergrip
3. I have to see what your squat rack looks lke
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:41 PM   #13
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:05 PM   #14
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Greg is right it was in fact me who prefers the thumbless grip as it reduces the stress on my wrists. It also makes a dump considerably easier as I simply drop my hands and step forward even from a bottom position so I'm not sure where Greg figures one could lose ones arms in the matter but that is neither here nor there.

My cue for you with this position is to take a slightly narrower grip and drive your elbows UP. That upward elbow drive will build that shelf as others have termed it, with your delts. This position is actually very comfortable and rock solid once you've played around with it and figured out your sweet spot.

Greg I have hyperflexible wrists, not particularly strong ones. Any excess loading that I can avoid on them is good stuff I think. Why do I like the low bar back squat so much. Same reason Rip likes it and we have discussed this at length me and him.

The lower position of the bar shortens the lever arm (or moment arm whichever you prefer) on the back, places the impetus on the hip and loads the hamstring and thus posterior chain more completely. It reduces the moment on the knee and thus gives me a break since front squats, cleans and thrusters are far more knee dominant. Frankly I can lift more this way and thats just cool!
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:52 PM   #15
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From the pic.

You need to squat down between your legs, not on top of them.

2 tips, from Dan John:

1. Grab a pole. Squat down to rock bottom holding that pole. Squat in between your knees, not on top of them. This is the kind of position you are looking for.

2. Goblet squat. There are pictures of this around. Check them out. If you can't find them, then I can post one. When you squat down, your elbows should be in between your knees. Use them to slightly push your knees out. Rippetoe and Kilgore have a pic of this in Starting Strength too.
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