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Old 01-19-2009, 01:50 PM   #11
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Have you yet tried eating well-overcooked (mushy) veggies?

Any bloating with any fruit? What about the nuts/seeds?

I'm trying to help figure out whether it is the fiber or something else.
I am not sure about the fruit or the nuts. I don't think I have any issues with either. I will eat nuts today, without any veggies, and I will try fruit tomorrow. I have been eating almonds, and I don't think they have given me any problems. I will double check though.

Haven't tried over-cooked veggies.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:19 PM   #12
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If you've been eating almonds, then you're likely okay with the nuts.

Definitely try the fruit (whole) and report back.

Then try a small amount of very overcooked veggies and watch for reactions. The extra cooking may really help.

In the meantime, you may want to take a multivitamin to cover your bases.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:35 PM   #13
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I just had 1/2 ounce of almonds and almost immediately my stomach started hurting. Not nearly as bad as veggies, but much smaller dose. I had been eating almonds before with no problems.

Can you develop an intolerance to fiber this quick?

Edit: An hour later, the almonds have caused some pretty bad pain/cramps and bloating.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:05 PM   #14
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Sounds a lot like IBS to me:
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C21201.html

You'll want to get this checked out by a good gastro doc sometime, preferably by one who treats the cause and doesn't just push meds to suppress symptoms. Many gastro docs that my patients have previously seen never even address diet or say that diet has nothing to do with their symptoms.

You may also want to get a stool test for parasites. I use www.parasitetesting.com .
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:21 AM   #15
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From the description of IBS on your link sure hits the nail on the head...

"...are often fiber-intolerant and have a tendency to like fats because they produce a feeling of well being. They often respond well, even dramatically so, to a multiple digestive enzyme formula."

It's just surprising that it sprung up on me so quick. Especially the nut intolerance. Which triggered a memory that my brother had developed a peanut intolerance a while ago. So I called him up and I told him what I was going through and he said it sounded much like the same thing he went through when he started to go "clean" in his diet. I thought it was just peanuts he had a problem with, but turns out it was a bunch of foods with fiber. He wasn't sure how long it lasted, but is now able to eat anything in any amount that he wants.

I guess, I am going to wait it out for a period of time. If nothing improves, I will see a GI dr. I just will avoid the things that cause problems. I just had a 5th an apple, and we'll see how I react. My brother said fruit didn't bother him.

Garrett thank you so much for all the time you spent helping me. I really appreciate it. It was nice to get some solid advice and guidance.
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Jim,
Glad I could help.

You may want to treat this situation like weight training--build up slowly with the fiber. Your gut may just be having a tough time with a sharp increase in fiber and needs some time to adjust. Definitely talk in depth with your brother about this, if his went away, that's likely a good sign for you.

Best of luck.
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Fiber is over-rated. I have PLENTY of bowel movements with limited veggies and fruit intake. Take some digestive enzymes and enjoy your meat and fat.
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Fiber is over-rated. I have PLENTY of bowel movements with limited veggies and fruit intake. Take some digestive enzymes and enjoy your meat and fat.
I actually picked some up today! I definitely don't mind missing out on the fruit/veggies. Meat and Fat are my friends! BACON!! Might miss the apples for awhile.
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See if unsweetened apple sauce works, as a start. Not too much.
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See if unsweetened apple sauce works, as a start. Not too much.
Don't worry, I am not in an hurry to experience that pain again. I think we might have some apple sauce laying around, I will give that a shot.
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