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Old 02-15-2009, 06:52 PM   #61
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I don't have anything to add, just wanted to say this is a really, really good thread.
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Old 02-15-2009, 09:59 PM   #62
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all:
remember to play nice. This thread is borderline. Follow the rules, no CrossFit or individual bashing or I will make this thread go to cyber heaven. or hell.
Keep your beefs in private messages or to yourselves. This is a great topic and thread otherwise, but we don't gossip or talk badly about anyone who are our friends. There are other forums for that.

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Old 02-16-2009, 12:25 PM   #63
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Sorry to barge in. I'm new to this site and think I've found a home, but have a newbie question. Other than the gymnastics work, I'm trying to figure out the difference between Gant's Hybrid and simply following the WOD on this site. As someone moving from doing CF for the last two years, I am glad to find some good alternative program.
Gant's is a GPP via increased strength program. CA WOD is a Oly lifting w/ marginal metcon/GPP program. The CF Strength Bias program is very similar to Gant's program, except more GPP based, and includes higher repetition lifting work in addition to the lower repetition work. From reading through the comments on the CFSB program, I'd say it looks like a good program for a crossfitter looking to focus on strength without leaving crossfit, which is what Bingo and Jeff Martin have always said.

IIRC, Bingo/Jeff have never ever bashed on Gant's program or anything, they just were kind of confused when people on CF boards would say something like "hey, I'm weak but I like the fitness I get from crossfit, what should I do??" and a lot of folks would respond, with answers such as do Starting Strength and forget metcon until your lift #s are up. In this regard, I'm sure they were more favorable to Gant's program than SS. Makes sense to me. And why not? If you like the metcon ability and you don't have any immediate strength goals or needs, why drop GPP all together to focus on solely strength.

Also of note: Crossfit Football has been announced by Coach Glassman and John Welbourn just a little bit ago. They said they should have something up about it soon (March?). This should be very interesting
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:10 PM   #64
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Also of note: Crossfit Football has been announced by Coach Glassman and John Welbourn just a little bit ago. They said they should have something up about it soon (March?). This should be very interesting
Do you have a link to that? What I turned up on a search was just some mention of a Crossfit Football Certification...but nothing on what it's all about. I train at a gym that churns out Combine-bound athletes, so I'm curious what this is all about.
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:32 PM   #65
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Do you have a link to that? What I turned up on a search was just some mention of a Crossfit Football Certification...but nothing on what it's all about. I train at a gym that churns out Combine-bound athletes, so I'm curious what this is all about.
http://board.crossfit.com/showpost.p...73&postcount=3

That's the only thing anyone's really got to go on so far, I think.
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:56 PM   #66
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As far as credit giving goes... This reminds me of how Newton invented calculus. Heheh. Not really anything else to add, I just thought the parallels were interesting.
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:13 PM   #67
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Kevin, there's no answer. This place is great because we have people with a gymnastics focus, strong man, olympic lifting, power lifting, GPP fans etc.

It's the people and insights that make this place what it is.
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:04 AM   #68
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Thanks again for the response. If I want to follow Gant's Hybrid program, I think I found his outline, but my question is: on Snatch or C/J days, does one simply do 3x3 or 5x5 or 1rm, or do you also prep for those lifts in a similar fashion to the wods' on this site (snatch balance, 3 position cleans, heavy pulls, etc?) Slow lifts are easy enough and i can figure out a mini metcon to do, but the Oly lift training is my biggest question.
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Thanks again for the response. If I want to follow Gant's Hybrid program, I think I found his outline, but my question is: on Snatch or C/J days, does one simply do 3x3 or 5x5 or 1rm, or do you also prep for those lifts in a similar fashion to the wods' on this site (snatch balance, 3 position cleans, heavy pulls, etc?) Slow lifts are easy enough and i can figure out a mini metcon to do, but the Oly lift training is my biggest question.
No, the OLY lifts are programmed differently. Look to Greg's WODs for guidance. Lots of singles and doubles. The hybrid utilizes the OLY lifts but doesn't practice them like the WODs here. If you want extra work, change a couple OLY lifts to OLY assistance exercises. Or just add tall cleans or snatch balances to your warmup, which isn't a bad idea for ANY training program.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:07 PM   #70
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The only OL-related exercise I do that goes above 3 reps/set is back squats.
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