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Old 04-09-2009, 01:05 AM   #11
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This post probably constituted as trolling.

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Old 04-09-2009, 06:29 AM   #12
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Btw, all the gymnastics/skinny people/strength-to-weight ratio people are just going to say it's only a 2.72xBW lift, since he weighs about 370 lbs :P
Hey, I'm not skinny I'm just small boned! ........and yeah strength-to-weight ratio and all that....... <mutters under breath about fatties getting all the glory and the unfairness of it all......>
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Old 04-09-2009, 09:35 AM   #13
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Absolutely unreal.

I've read that Andy performs power cleans as a regular part of his training. I'm curious as to what kind of poundages he power cleans. That too, would have to be insane.

I've also read that he never pulls any heavier than 800 from the floor during his training. He does heavier rack pulls with near his ME lifts. Makes a lot of sense really.

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Old 04-09-2009, 10:59 AM   #14
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Absolutely unreal.

I've read that Andy performs power cleans as a regular part of his training. I'm curious as to what kind of poundages he power cleans. That too, would have to be insane.

I've also read that he never pulls any heavier than 800 from the floor during his training. He does heavier rack pulls with near his ME lifts. Makes a lot of sense really.

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Ha! that's funny., i was just reading a spippet from Jim Wendler this morning that the greatest thing he learned from L. Simmons was that you can use submaximal weights to get stronger, such as using a trainiing max of 650 and pulling 710 in a meet.
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Old 04-10-2009, 08:02 AM   #15
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Ha! that's funny., i was just reading a spippet from Jim Wendler this morning that the greatest thing he learned from L. Simmons was that you can use submaximal weights to get stronger, such as using a trainiing max of 650 and pulling 710 in a meet.
It makes a lot of sense when you really think about it.

For example, most oly lifters rarely go about 85 to 90% in their training. And when they get to that 90% level, they're performing singles. But for the most part, the "practice" is done with weights that bring about stress but no so much stress that it breaks down the body.

The partials also make sense to me. Andy is extremely fast off the floor. The bar obviously slows when he gets to his knees - thus, he has a lot of leg and hip strength. It's the bringing the hips to the bar part of the movement that he needs to really concentrate on.

However, when you're pulling weights at that level......it's just not worldly. Ya know?

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Old 04-10-2009, 08:07 AM   #16
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But for the most part, the "practice" is done with weights that bring about stress but no so much stress that it breaks down the body.
You just hit on the key to training smarter while training hard Arden. I think just about everyone can learn from this. I discovered this recently with my deadlift (which is oh, less than 1/2 of what Andy puts up ). You don't have to go for a PR every day!
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Old 04-10-2009, 08:38 AM   #17
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It makes a lot of sense when you really think about it.

For example, most oly lifters rarely go about 85 to 90% in their training. And when they get to that 90% level, they're performing singles. But for the most part, the "practice" is done with weights that bring about stress but no so much stress that it breaks down the body.

The partials also make sense to me. Andy is extremely fast off the floor. The bar obviously slows when he gets to his knees - thus, he has a lot of leg and hip strength. It's the bringing the hips to the bar part of the movement that he needs to really concentrate on.

However, when you're pulling weights at that level......it's just not worldly. Ya know?

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Interesting concept. Almost a different variation on GTG, but with submaximal weight done more often rather than the same principle with reps.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:25 AM   #18
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You just hit on the key to training smarter while training hard Arden. I think just about everyone can learn from this. I discovered this recently with my deadlift (which is oh, less than 1/2 of what Andy puts up ). You don't have to go for a PR every day!
I think after you reach a point this becomes true, but for those of us who are not deadlifting 500 lbs, and can still recover fast enough to set PR's every workout, we should be.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:08 PM   #19
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You just hit on the key to training smarter while training hard Arden. I think just about everyone can learn from this. I discovered this recently with my deadlift (which is oh, less than 1/2 of what Andy puts up ). You don't have to go for a PR every day!
My lifts, my recovery, and my disposition improved the day I started reading Louie a couple years ago. The man has put as much free knowledge on the net as anyone in the game. DE days are a godsend.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:17 PM   #20
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Here is a good raw vid from Chris Jenkins (a great PLer in his own right).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gYSwsrAJN0

There's a lot to be said for a great corner man. Despite the circus atmosphere of a WR DL, Bulldog gets Andy to laser focus on the lift. Awesome.
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