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Old 09-20-2009, 11:18 AM   #1
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Default Conan's Wheel Technique and Training

A little more straightforward than the last post.

Anyone trained Conan's much? I made it over to Brute Strength Gym yesterday, trained it for the first time. Worked up to 500 for a full turn, heavy but doable. Felt like the yoke in some ways, with less hip stability issues, but the added suck of not being able to breath.

I'd like to do BSG's (tentative) contest in January, and not fall apart. I was told I wasn't leading with my hips enough by Mark, who runs the place. Seems like reasonable advice, I've also heard you should look towards the center, not straight ahead. I have space and materials, I imagine I could setup a budget Conan's at my place. What else, Zercher walks with axles? I imagine farmers and yoke would help also.
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:54 PM   #2
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Jacob,
I don't mean this as anything against the members of this board (because I'm included in the lot), but aren't there boards out there where a lot of SM guys hang out where you'd get a lot more answers than you do here?

By all means, don't let me stop you from asking, I'm only interested in helping the efficiency and effectiveness of you getting the answers you want!
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Old 09-20-2009, 06:23 PM   #3
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From the one-time experience I have messing with Zercher carries, I found that sitting the elbows against the hips, similar to a KB rack position, help you waddle around while still being able to breath somewhat. The one downside is that this might be too low to lift the weight stack off the ground for a Conan's Wheel. That really depends on how tall you are vs. how tall it is.

I've also seen carries done with cambered bars, yokes, and chain yokes.

There's lots of info out there on tire flips, stone lifting, and farmer's walks... Not so much on any of the other implements, unfortunately... With that in mind, I sort of agree with Garrett, though I'd like to hear whatever you learn too, Jacob.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:17 AM   #4
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A little more straightforward than the last post.

Anyone trained Conan's much? I made it over to Brute Strength Gym yesterday, trained it for the first time. Worked up to 500 for a full turn, heavy but doable. Felt like the yoke in some ways, with less hip stability issues, but the added suck of not being able to breath.

I'd like to do BSG's (tentative) contest in January, and not fall apart. I was told I wasn't leading with my hips enough by Mark, who runs the place. Seems like reasonable advice, I've also heard you should look towards the center, not straight ahead. I have space and materials, I imagine I could setup a budget Conan's at my place. What else, Zercher walks with axles? I imagine farmers and yoke would help also.

just started training conan's for a contest in oct. used a yoke set up as low as it could go...still skiffed a little. big thing seems to be wearing no belt or wearing it low. leading with the hips as above and finding a way to breathe.

also have heard to be prepared for a low pick. they set up the bar low to accomodate everyone, tall guys have a nastier pick. at you're height you might have to half squat the 500pounds and then wrangle it into position.

upper back work heavy rows or safety squats will pay off I bet if you have 5 months to train. we're going to try heavy zercher holds with the axle next week as an assist. i'll let you know.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:49 AM   #5
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I'm still working on my programming... When aren't we right? But anyway, I try and keep in Zercher walks with Louie's harness whenever I can, because doing them is just fantastic for after a short distance with what one might think is low weight making one wonder how in the hell to get the next breath of air. They also stress the low back hold for me like nothing else I've done.


I've only done the Conan's a few times and "lift and walk" with the weight easily if I could only breath , which means I royally sucked wind at it, but that was with carrying the weight too high solely on my assertion. When I get around to training SM events again, presently training focus push\pull PLing, I will concentrate on lower carrying position and high breathing in short breaths; finding that position for your body that you can breath is the biggest key.

Could do the Remo Williams thing and get a light Asian gentleman to stand on your chest to increase breathing strength.


Just to note about BSG; Mark told me that they have ordered the cambered SSB from EliteFTS. WOOT! Don't know if that particular configuration of the cambered bar will be useful for Zercher carries though; the padding might get in the way or it could just make breathing even more difficult which could make for good training as well.
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regular cambered bar is great for bottom up zercher squats. no rack, no spotters, pick is just below the knee for me. i bet the SS camber will work too.
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