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Old 12-07-2009, 05:01 AM   #11
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Bagels are now the forbidden secret to hormonal balance, you know.

You still have to WAM it, which sucks, because I am running out of graph paper.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:29 PM   #12
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Bagels are now the forbidden secret to hormonal balance, you know.

You still have to WAM it, which sucks, because I am running out of graph paper.
Yeah I do not trust anyone who sells Cinnamon Buns and Candy as nutrition guru, but CFHQ does.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:03 PM   #13
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Yeah I do not trust anyone who sells Cinnamon Buns and Candy as nutrition guru, but CFHQ does.
There's a pretty good joke here somewhere...

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Barry Sears' website claims that the Zone Diet has helped elite athletes such as Valentina Vezzali (fencer), Linsay Berg (volleyball), Becky Lavelle (triathlete) and Christian VandeVelde (cyclist) win medal (see http://www.zonediet.com/tabid/169/it...Athletes.aspx).

Does anyone know whether these athletes are strict Zoners and whether they have food logs?
Even if they did, would that be meaningful to you? Fact of the matter is, more elite and professional athletes are getting by on Macdonald's, Hennessey, and weed than they are the Zone.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:15 PM   #14
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Yeah I do not trust anyone who sells Cinnamon Buns and Candy as nutrition guru, but CFHQ does.
Yeah I started getting interested in Zone while listening to the seminar at Endicott but lost all interest after hearing about the molecular baked goods and cinnamon buns and candy. Goes against all my instinct to eat natural.

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Even if they did, would that be meaningful to you? Fact of the matter is, more elite and professional athletes are getting by on Macdonald's, Hennessey, and weed than they are the Zone.
Probably not! It's just to satisfy my curiosity about his claims.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:37 AM   #15
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Barry Sears is Irrelevant therefore the Zone is Irrelevant, so is CFHQ, So are CF Message Board Moderators.
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I think what annoys me most about this whole Sears/Zone thing is it shows that CFHQ has a complete lack of integrity and doesn't really give a shit about anything but money. I mean if they had any respect for their customers they wouldn't be asking them to pay good money, and rather a lot of it at that, for what they must know is bad advice for any aspiring athlete.

I think that what CFHQ needs to do if they want to regain the trust of the CF community is bring in a registered dietitian with a background in sports nutrition to run the nutrition certs or if that isn't possible they should at least hire someone who isn't trying to sell bagels and cinnamon buns.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:59 AM   #16
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They tried that, Darryl, and then they lost him. CrossFit hasn't really be able to retain anyone they bring in.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:27 AM   #17
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I would love to see affiliates take a stand and cancel their dates for hosting nutritional seminars to send a clear message....if people really want to know about the Zone, I'm sure they can save a bunch of money and find it for $5 in any used bookstore.

Time for the community to realize who has the power....they do...not HQ.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:32 PM   #18
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and find it for $5 in any used bookstore...
I loved the subtlety.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:35 PM   #19
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They tried that, Darryl, and then they lost him. CrossFit hasn't really be able to retain anyone they bring in.
Robb Wolf is a RD?
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:58 PM   #20
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I just watched the Barry Sears Video and he said people would be better off zoning with the modern diet than eating paleo diet without zoning. He actually said zoning with Ding Dongs is better than the paleo diet without zoning.

And this guy is replacing Robb Wolf?
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