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Old 12-11-2009, 09:03 AM   #21
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I think Robb needs to pull a Jerry Mcguire and steal a fish from HQ and yell "Who's coming with me?"

....him and his Harry Potter based nutritional wizardy....pffffft.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:38 AM   #22
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Fortunately, the irongarmx guys learned this years ago and keep copies. I remember when Greg had all the pro-Dan John posts deleted but kept his insightful attacks on my character, my faith tradition and my ability to coach. I have certainly forgotten about all of this...
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:42 AM   #23
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I can understand Coach's desire for the weighing and measuring, even if I don't agree with it for obvious reasons. What I don't understand is the need for a public reply that will be taken as an insult to Robb. Even if everything in his statement is true, Robb is still an affiliate and I think that personal matters should be dealt with behind the scenes and the juicy details be kept to those involved. Even if Robb wasn't an affiliate, it can be taken as character assassination and that can backfire.

It just makes for a nasty he said/she said situation that will just snowball.

The fact is that quality AND quantity should go hand in hand. I don't care if people want to Zone, if it works for them, great, but don't tell me that zoning with a tortilla shell is going to be as effective as zoning with a handful of strawberries.

What I would love to see is for all parties directly involved in this to hash it out in a conference call or via meeting and deal with it. The internet only makes shit worse and just separates people along the lines of Robb's side/HQ's side.

I respect them both and there really isn't any easy solution to this other than all parties meeting up.

Its a shame it had to come to this...
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:50 AM   #24
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Dan, I use your methods a ton, been following your articles for years, read your latest book as well and use your ideas frequently in my own training, your way of keeping things simple and effective speaks clearly as to your intelligence.

You don't need to throw out complex charts, graphs and stats. You get the point across in a way everyone can understand, and that is how it should be done.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:00 AM   #25
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luuuuulllllzzzzz.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:48 AM   #26
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I think Glassman also forgets that everyone attending these "Nutrition" certs are looking to simply meet Robb in one aspect and learn simple/easy things that they can apply for themselves and others (seriously, how many people there are going to have PhD's and a lot of background in nutritional studies, or even want to learn all that crap in 2 days?). Very few people in CF actually care or know about the hard science that goes on with eating foods, hence why Robb simplifies it quite a lot. You seriously cannot expect anyone to attend a Nutrition cert and know exactly what any of the jargon means unless you have attended chemistry and nutrition classes before.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:52 AM   #27
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I think Glassman also forgets that everyone attending these "Nutrition" certs are looking to simply meet Robb in one aspect and learn simple/easy things that they can apply for themselves and others (seriously, how many people there are going to have PhD's and a lot of background in nutritional studies, or even want to learn all that crap in 2 days?). Very few people in CF actually care or know about the hard science that goes on with eating foods, hence why Robb simplifies it quite a lot. You seriously cannot expect anyone to attend a Nutrition cert and know exactly what any of the jargon means unless you have attended chemistry and nutrition classes before.
exactly, I agree 100%... and thus lies the genius in Robb, he is able to make the complex simple so everyone can grasp the basic concepts.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:59 AM   #28
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The big issue for me here isn't whether @FHQ wants to promote the Zone as their nutritional cert. It would be understandable and well within their business interest to do so. The issue for me is the lack of decency and honesty with which this was done.

If you follow the events and logic, one or both of the two must be true:

1) Castro was out of line and ranted, raved, and fired Robb on his own accord, and @FHQ didn't have the decency to correct things and make nice OR
2) @FHQ wanted to replace Robb by Sears anyway, and wasn't honest enough to come out and say it, so they sent Castro to stir shit up to force a break and blame it on Robb being an evil agent set to destroy @F.

Then, post hoc, the @FHQ "leader" used character assassination to justify the outcome.

The IGx folks have been far too polite. If they would stop wanking around trolling blogs and dissing each other, and would instead unleash pure hate, bile and evil, I'll bring the popcorn.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:22 AM   #29
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the problem with IGX is the hate and bile, that is so counterproductive and juvenile... ultimately it comes off so immature that any message they may want to get across is buried in the pile of idiocy they post about.

There are so many better ways to improve upon a product/service than acting like 3rd graders...
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i would guess that no one at IGX gives a rat's ass about productive and don't think crossfit warrants the attention to improve it let alone save it. plus, mature is overrated.
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