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Old 12-14-2009, 05:41 PM   #21
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Elite fitness is relative. For an average joe who does a workout 4 times a week in his local box, his idea of elite fitness, for him, is completely different than a Jason Khalipa who has a different approach to it and a different goal in mind.
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yes, think about it. Its relative towards the individual, not everyone can be an 800m sprinter and a weightlifter rolled into one.
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I think fitness is relative to the activity the person wants to compete in. You can have elite fitness for throwing, but next to zero fitness for triathlon.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:30 PM   #22
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Gavin, that was my point exactly, you explained it better than I did.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:33 PM   #23
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Now you got it..."fit for what?"
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:36 PM   #24
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Now you got it..."fit for what?"
agree... which is what I meant but I explained it like shit and Gavin did a better job at it...
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:29 AM   #25
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One can be fit to run the 400m dash just as one can be fit to pound Safeway gin and fly a spaceship with Xenu. It's a semantical argument designed to distract people from the fact that competitive exercise isn't a sport.
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Old 12-15-2009, 08:53 AM   #26
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The word "elite".....rant on

People would be much better off to just drop the "elite" word on all things......and then find fun in whatever exercise they choose to do.

While competing for the sake of challenging oneself is good......ONLY trying to be "better than others" implies an ego driven motivation and lack of actual happiness in who the person is right now (thinking about being something else will make them happy....which it never does....as it is never enough).

If someone needs to ask "What do you bench?".....or "What is your Fran time"....only hoping to be better than the other person.....I feel a bit sorry for that person as they are not happy with themselves right now.

I've seen too many people use OCD fitness lifestyles much like drugs/alcohol to ignore a deeper problem inside.....that should be addressed.

Just my zen rant.......rant done.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:10 AM   #27
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Gant, exercise isn't a sport, it is a way to get in shape and stronger, and if you play sports or compete, its a means to an end, exactly. The Games are fun, but its a contest of fitness and strength, so that makes it a sport perse, but to the thousands of people who don't compete in the games, CF is just a way to get them fitter and stronger for whatever they need.
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Safeway gin . . . spaceships . . . Xenu . . . ignoring problems . . . sounds good.
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One can be fit to run the 400m dash just as one can be fit to pound Safeway gin and fly a spaceship with Xenu. It's a semantical argument designed to distract people from the fact that competitive exercise isn't a sport.
I wish this quote were flowers that I could put in a vase.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:20 PM   #30
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The word "elite".....rant on

People would be much better off to just drop the "elite" word on all things......and then find fun in whatever exercise they choose to do.

While competing for the sake of challenging oneself is good......ONLY trying to be "better than others" implies an ego driven motivation and lack of actual happiness in who the person is right now (thinking about being something else will make them happy....which it never does....as it is never enough).

If someone needs to ask "What do you bench?".....or "What is your Fran time"....only hoping to be better than the other person.....I feel a bit sorry for that person as they are not happy with themselves right now.

I've seen too many people use OCD fitness lifestyles much like drugs/alcohol to ignore a deeper problem inside.....that should be addressed.

Just my zen rant.......rant done.
Well said MOD.
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