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Old 12-17-2009, 06:50 AM   #71
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Progenex is taking parts of milk and concentrating them.

This is basically drug/pharmaceutical technology and approach at work.

Cordain's work discussing the "tissue growth"-stimulating effects of certain fractions of milk as being a potential contributor to cancer would be an interesting thing for Progenex users to think about...

That and the obscene price.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:33 AM   #72
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Progenex is taking parts of milk and concentrating them.

That and the obscene price.
Overpriced milk.....nice. I'll take nature over science anytime....I'd rather drink the real stuff.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:46 AM   #73
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Hmm, apparently the man behind Progenex was one of the founding members of Met-RX. One thread claims Progenex is NPO.

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BAWF protein contains far higher total growth factor levels comprised from IGF-1, TGF-beta 1,. It contains much higher levels of various phospholipids and various bioactive lipids, such as conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), phosphotidyl-serine, phosphtidyl-choline, sphingomyelin, and higher levels of immunoglobulins and lactoferrin."
So, fancy, expensive whey protein that is way out my budget like everything else more interesting than Whey. Cute, but in a week I won't care.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6076221

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=170700.0



http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...-progenex.html
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:59 AM   #74
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Cordain's work discussing the "tissue growth"-stimulating effects of certain fractions of milk as being a potential contributor to cancer would be an interesting thing for Progenex users to think about...
aka high IGF-1 = Increased risks for cancer cells to grow and multiply (since it is a growth factor for all cells....good and bad)?

Too much of anything is bad...GH, Test, Insulin, IGF-1, Cortisol...hence the body has built in regulation for it all....taking supplements outside of what is normal for the body (through natural levels, cycles, stimulation by exercise or food related) can lead to disruption of the natural checks and balances and more problems down the road.
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:08 PM   #75
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It is nice to see Track and Field get mentioned here. I think too many forget that the sport of Athletics already exists. It tests conditioning in the various metabolic engines (running events), it tests the ability of one to move their body through space (jumping events, pole vault) and finally it tests strength (throwing events). It also tests to see who is the most well rounded (decent in everything, at the same time, sound familiar?) in the decathalon.
Be careful Pat. Too many comments like that will get Couch to send the secret police after you. And bitch about someone stealing his intellectual property.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:55 PM   #76
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Magic protein powder.

Here's something Glassman said about the same time he was talking bollocks about DJ and MT:
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You've inspired me to fund a scientific test of your supplements! Which one would you like us to check out first? This could be big for you. Can you see it..."The Truth About T-Nation". (Really big smile)
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:37 PM   #77
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I can't wait until this relationship goes sour as well and Glassman starts spitting venom towards Progenex's way. Somehow he'll take that $25k sponsorship and make it the basis of all evil. Of course, he'll do it in a stand up way... like on a comments section for an Affiliate blog.

I can't wait.
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