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Old 01-15-2010, 08:10 AM   #11
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The basic legit issue is that you can't open the throttle 100% of the time.

This is why so many boxers do roadwork. It's not that they don't know about more intense training methods, or that their trainer has antiquated ideas on training, it's just that you cannot go hard every time you go out.

This applies to everyone, across the board, any sport, any training style.
I think a lot of people misunderstand this and revel in the whole endurance athletes are weak and sickly theory. Running a couple of miles is not training for an ultramarathon. I also think people misunderstand Ross who simply countered the doing things at one slow pace all the time method. Perhaps I'm wrong but he advocates periodisation, varied intensities and adequate rest. So many people have decided it has to be all out, all of the time, in effect going to the opposite extreme.

Slightly off topic but I'm interested how you vary things with your rugby girls Shaf.
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Old 01-15-2010, 08:13 AM   #12
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I read the book right when it came out, almost a year ago.

I used Joel's methods to help train for the military, and I was easily able to figure out my deficiencies and train them accordingly. For example, the Tempo Method trains the slow twitch fibers, and I found that I could do a max set of pullups and not be absolutely trashed afterwards because the development of slow twitch fibers helped me to recover. But, my max number of pullups didn't go up, so when I started doing more of the Explosive Repeat method, which works the oxidative capacities of the fast twitch fibers, my max number of pullups went up.

I also used his Cardiac Output training and High Intensity Continuous Intervals (HICT) to help with my running.

I don't use his methods anymore, since I dropped out of the military and am more interested in gymnastics and strength training. I do frequent his forum though, and I was introduced to Block Training and much more through him.
Thanks Donald. You've got more patience than me if I understand Joel's stuff correctly. I find HR monitor work very dull. I must get around to buying the book though.
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I'll make a detailed post about this somewhere else (rugby girls) as I am changing some things around this year to attempt to address some of the injury issues I had last year (too many concussions).
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I'll make a detailed post about this somewhere else (rugby girls) as I am changing some things around this year to attempt to address some of the injury issues I had last year (too many concussions).
Cool - I'd really like to read that. Looking forward to the earth shaking revelation that you don't use CrossFit.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:06 AM   #15
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I did get a prowler this year that I'm going to spring on them when I get outside.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:07 AM   #16
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In continuing the rugby threadjack, the one thing I hated most was roadwork. But, as a center, it was a necessary evil. The best idea I ever had was taking a ball with me on my runs. That way I could visualize squashing the poor bastards coming my direction. Of course, if you end up with a good view, you can slow down the pace and practice switching hands for a few hundred meters.
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