Home   |   Contact   |   Help

Get Our Newsletter
Sign up for our free newsletter to get training tips and stay up to date on Catalyst Athletics, and get a FREE issue of the Performance Menu journal.

Go Back   Catalyst Athletics Forums > Training > Olympic Weightlifting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-06-2010, 11:29 AM   #21
Derek Simonds
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 4,231
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Gallimore View Post
As others have said, 10 reps is pretty much par for the course for week 1, and I've done as many as 20 on a couple of occasions. Last week I pulled 205kg having not pulled any heavier than 170x3 for the last 8 months.

Frrom my experience, having done 8 cycles so far, double the target reps for the day is usually a decent number to hit, although I usually hit more.

I'm not sure where this "adding" metcon to 5/3/1 talk comes from though. It's already a part of the program - it's called Moving North of Vag and is in the book.
Agreed and I think that is probably my favorite part of the book!
__________________
What we think, or what we know, or what we believe, is in the end, of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do. -John Ruskin

http://westvolusiawellness.com/
Derek Simonds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 01:02 PM   #22
Donald Lee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 646
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Forbis View Post
I've wondered some about that. Doing a AMRAP set on the DL every week seems like it might be a bit extreme. Is that addressed in the e-book at all? I'm almost certainly going to be buying it, but haven't done so yet.

I think I saw Gant post that he doesn't do AMRAP in week 2 of each cycle. Any other info out there on this?
Mike Tuscherer, the founder of RTS, has stated that the Deadlift is no more stressful on the body than the Back Squat. He says he's done tests to prove it. He seemed to say that we tend to train the Deadlift differently from the Back Squat, which may make it seem to be more stressful.
Donald Lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 02:44 PM   #23
Kevin Perry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,672
Default

So besides sprints and interals what kinds of metcons do you guys feel compliment 5/3/1? It would likely have to be less than 10 min and be related to the specific exercise for that day.
Kevin Perry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 06:34 PM   #24
Júlíus G. Magnússon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Iceland
Posts: 555
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Donald Lee View Post
Mike Tuscherer, the founder of RTS, has stated that the Deadlift is no more stressful on the body than the Back Squat. He says he's done tests to prove it. He seemed to say that we tend to train the Deadlift differently from the Back Squat, which may make it seem to be more stressful.
Well... The deadlift isn't more stressful than the back squat when your max back squat is a couple of hundred pounds higher than your max deadlift.
__________________
log
Júlíus G. Magnússon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 07:08 PM   #25
Ryan Secor
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 137
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris H Laing View Post
Actually Robb said he got great results from it.

http://robbwolf.com/2009/10/12/my-tr...renal-fatigue/
Quote:
Originally Posted by Júlíus G. Magnússon View Post
It was Welbourn who said that Wolf didn't get good results from it. I'm guessing he's talked to Robb about it since he wrote that blog post.
I stand corrected... not sure how I missed that on Robb's blog.
__________________
Training Log
Ryan Secor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 09:19 PM   #26
Donald Lee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 646
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Júlíus G. Magnússon View Post
Well... The deadlift isn't more stressful than the back squat when your max back squat is a couple of hundred pounds higher than your max deadlift.
I'm pretty sure he was talking about raw training.
Donald Lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 05:03 PM   #27
Derek Weaver
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,642
Default

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a...ason_ferruggia

The first two questions apply to this discussion, I think.

RE: CF Football. I think Welbourn has a vested interest in protecting the brand he was charged with creating. I'm a little perplexed why he would comment on Robb's experience when there's a freaking blog post to the contrary.

edit: The majority of that article applies to the question at hand.
__________________
Quote:
And if you don't think kettleball squat cleans are difficult, I say, step up to the med-ball
- CJ Kim
Derek Weaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 05:39 PM   #28
Jay Ashman
Senior Member
 
Jay Ashman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 377
Default

Derek, 5/3/1 for football is coming out soon, maybe that leaves a sour taste in his mouth....
Jay Ashman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 07:30 PM   #29
Steve Shafley
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,285
Default

Ferruggia has issues. Legitimate mental health issues. Poor bastard.
Steve Shafley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 07:56 PM   #30
Derek Weaver
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,642
Default

Yeah, he's definitely a different dude.

I'm interested to see what this 5/3/1 for football is going to be. How can it really be different? Lift: 5/3/1 scheme. Play football.
__________________
Quote:
And if you don't think kettleball squat cleans are difficult, I say, step up to the med-ball
- CJ Kim
Derek Weaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Subscribe to our Newsletter


Receive emails with training tips, news updates, events info, sale notifications and more.
ASK GREG

Submit your question to be answered by Greg Everett in the Performance Menu or on the website

Submit Your Question
WEIGHTLIFTING TEAM

Catalyst Athletics is a USA Weightlifting team of competitive Olympic-style weightlifters with multiple national team medals.

Read More
Olympic Weightlifting Book
Catalyst Athletics
Contact Us
About
Help
Newsletter
Products & Services
Gym
Store
Seminars
Weightlifting Team
Performance Menu
Magazine Home
Subscriber Login
Issues
Articles
Workouts
About the Program
Workout Archives
Exercise Demos
Text Only
Instructional Content
Exercise Demos
Video Gallery
Free Articles
Free Recipes
Resources
Recommended Books & DVDs
Olympic Weightlifting Guide
Discussion Forum
Weight Conversion Calculator