Originally Posted by Dave Van Skike
What did he say about applying this approach to other strength sports?
Originally Posted by Broz
Powerlifter- the same approach I take now and do it with the 3 lifts, but the bench would only be 3x/week. smaller muscles need a bit more time.
Strongman - I would train just like we do except drop the snatches and add power clean with push presses. 2/wk I would do grip work- no more than that. 2x/mo I would do the actual strongman exercises until getting close to a meet when I would focus more on volume and not on maximum lifts for the aerobic benefit needed for those meets.
That thread has a ton of info on the way he trains and recommends others train. I read it through, front to back, it's insane. Unfortunately, Iron Addict made personal attacks on Broz and it kinda threw Broz back into hiding from the internet and just doing his thing in his gym
Other points from the thread:
1. He doesn't believe in overtraining, only undertraining. Overtraining is part of the adaptation towards being awesomely strong. He refers to what others call overtraining as the "Dark Time" when your strength goes down and you feel like shit. To him, there's light at the end of the tunnel, and when you start making PRs in a completely fatigued state, you know you're getting somewhere.
2. He expects his gym to be a highly competitive gym on the world/olympic level within the next 2-3 years.
3. Back squats are stupid easy, and if you need to do more work without taxing yourself to much, do back squats.
4. Back Squats are generally better than Front Squats. Front squats limiting factor is always the upper back, never the legs.
5. However, front squats carry over to the clean, yay. BS carry over to the snatch more.
6. Squatting heavy should be as easy and natural as walking.
7. Something will hurt. Always. And you'll never know what it will be until you wake up in the morning.
8. If you're tired, train. If you hurt, train. If you have free time, train. If you're injured, go to the ER. If you're not injured, train.
9. Work up to a max, back of 10-20kg and do 2's or 3's to get to 30-50 reps total for the workout. Percents are BS.
10. More volume = more adaptation. Train more.
11. He's made over 50 attempts in a single workout before hitting a new PR.
12. There will never be a day when you walk in the gym and can't lift the bar. If it's one of those days, lift the bar... a lot.
13. Every time you train that's a +. Every day you don't train, that's a -.
14. Assistance work is over rated, unless you're bench pressing, then balancing the shoulder is important. Also, push press is better than press.
15. His lifters only do light presses, and only if their elbows hurt. Elbows don't hurt, no more pressing.
16. Start out by training 3 times a week, maxing every workout. Add another day, until you're up to 7, as soon as possible. Then work up to maxing every workout. Then add 2x/day.
17. Assistance work is overrated, unless you're training the upper body, particularly with bench presses. In this case, do rows, pull ups, etc to stretch the front of your body and provide balance.
18. Don't bench more than 3x/week. Limit deadlifting, the lower back recovers poorly.
19. If you get pinned by a snatch, you get laughed out of the gym. Or chained to the squat rack for a month.
20. Once you start training this way, you're almost never sore.
I kind of like the idea behind the training, tons of practice, not being sore, auto-regulation, etc. The limiting factor it would seem is time. If you're not AMAZINGLY dedicated (WL not your top priority), you're not going to be able to spend 2-3 hours in a gym 2x/day. The ideas of training economy, abbreviated training, etc, are completely thrown out in this approach. The thread responses by Broz are very good and interesting, imo.