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Old 04-24-2010, 05:03 PM   #1
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Does that look safe?

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Old 04-24-2010, 06:32 PM   #2
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first things first, knees too far over the bar... not to mention the hips being low as hell
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:52 PM   #3
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first things first, knees too far over the bar... not to mention the hips being low as hell
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:40 PM   #4
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Are you trying to clean or deadlift?
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Old 04-24-2010, 09:08 PM   #5
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Are you trying to clean or deadlift?
I'm trying to do both right now, in the first picture though I'm about to power clean in the second I'm setting up like I would for a deadlift I guess, but I'm under the impression that they both set up pretty much the same.
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yes, knees still forward a bit, but as long as you are able to pull the bar back into the hips and not around the knees, it would be sufficient.
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:20 PM   #7
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I'm trying to do both right now, in the first picture though I'm about to power clean in the second I'm setting up like I would for a deadlift I guess, but I'm under the impression that they both set up pretty much the same.
Nope.

The clean pull from the floor is mostly to get you setup for a good second pull from about the knee level, body more in a straight line for a jump at that point, than in the DL.

The DL pull tends to have the hips higher, using more hips, hams, and back to hoist big weight to... your mid thigh.
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...I'm under the impression that they both set up pretty much the same.
Not at all.

Go to YouTube and look at a few videos of deadlifters and then a few videos of lifters cleaning. You'll get a better idea of the difference.

Setting up for a deadlift:

1) Feet spaced apart as if you were about to perform a vertical jump
2) Barbell positioned over the middle of the foot.
3) Reach down, grab the barbell and put your chest up until your shins come in contact with bar
4) Pull by driving through the heels and back

Setting up for a clean, you want your hips lower, so your bar will start a little further out over the toes.
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Old 04-25-2010, 11:27 AM   #9
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This is certainly not a consensus. There are a lot of respectable PL coaches and lifters who DL with low hips and shoulders directly (and even behind) the bar, e.g. simmons, tate.
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:36 PM   #10
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This is certainly not a consensus. There are a lot of respectable PL coaches and lifters who DL with low hips and shoulders directly (and even behind) the bar, e.g. simmons, tate.
I definitely agree with that for sure, I keep my shoulders above the bar, behind is too awkward for me, and in front I feel off balance.
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