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Old 06-30-2010, 08:57 PM   #1
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So, I went overboard. I started SS and ate like skinny guy when the reality was I was skinny-fat guy and didn't need a butt ton of calories. Now I'm left with mediocre strength gains and a big gut. I can get a handfull of it easily when I'm sitting down. I want to lose it now, so I've dropped to 3000 calories but all my lifts have now stalled except the press (oddly enough).

From what I've read this is to be expected, that it can be hard to gain strength and loose weight at the same time. My question is, should I stay on SS while leaning out or should I switch to something like the texas method where recovery wouldn't be as much of an issue?

And I would appreciate anyones general thoughts or comments on losing weight and getting stronger. I'm eating 1.5g/pound of protein of clean food and drinking lots of water.

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Old 06-30-2010, 09:07 PM   #2
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Just noticed there a whole sub forum dedicated to this topic. Whoops. Mods if you want to move it feel free.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:15 PM   #3
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Stick to what your doing.

What exactly are you eating? If you have developed a gut, just cut carbs and up fat and protein.


Weight loss and getting stronger: Hard goals that slightly conflict with each other, any type of fat loss diet means your going to lose some muscle and with it some strength. Just the reality of that.
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I dont think the problem was too much carbs, I tried to make sure I kept my intake moderate and the majority came from a GOMAD. I think I just ate much more then I needed.

Heres my new fitday account, just put up my days diet: [url]http://fitday.com/fitness/PublicJournals.html?Owner=amebix138

Its pretty high carb I think, damn macoroni, any food ideas for something to replace it?

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I dont think the problem was too much carbs, I tried to make sure I kept my intake moderate and the majority came from a GOMAD. I think I just ate much more then I needed.

Heres my new fitday account, just put up my days diet: http://fitday.com/fitness/FoodLog.ht...ate=1277942400.

Its pretty high carb I think, damn macoroni, any food ideas for something to replace it?

Thanks.
Vegetables?
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:49 AM   #6
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I eat a big salad with the steak, didn't add it to fitday though.
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worrying about it is ineffective. first principles. identify the "problem"

step back and assess. did you meet your strength or size goals? or was the goal to be pound for pound stronger than you were?

the path is different depending.
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I dont think the problem was too much carbs, I tried to make sure I kept my intake moderate and the majority came from a GOMAD. I think I just ate much more then I needed.

Heres my new fitday account, just put up my days diet: http://fitday.com/fitness/FoodLog.ht...ate=1277942400.

Its pretty high carb I think, damn macoroni, any food ideas for something to replace it?

Thanks.
You need to post the public link for your fitday. We can't see that link as it is.
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worrying about it is ineffective. first principles. identify the "problem"

step back and assess. did you meet your strength or size goals? or was the goal to be pound for pound stronger than you were?

the path is different depending.
I dont care about relative strength, although I probably dont want to weigh 275.

I'm still a good ways from my strength and size goals, namely a 300x5 squat and 405 deadlift for a single. Size I'd be happy with 200-220 at 15% bf.

So, what path do you suggest?
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I dont care about relative strength, although I probably dont want to weigh 275.

I'm still a good ways from my strength and size goals, namely a 300x5 squat and 405 deadlift for a single. Size I'd be happy with 200-220 at 15% bf.

So, what path do you suggest?
Everyone wants to be
1)Lean,
2)Strong
3)do it quickly.

Basic rule is you can get two out of those three.

if the goal is to be strong right away, you must accept chubbage. If what you really want is to look lean and be getting strong, accept a longer timeline.

Personally I suggest you set a much higher goal. sub 200 pounds with a 1100# crossfit total. NFW do you need to be 220 to squat or pull that weight.

Tell me again what you really really want...identify the top priority and the path is easy to see.
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