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Old 10-16-2010, 12:38 AM   #11
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Appreciate all the replies. I think I am going to give it a 6 week shot and see how it goes. The plan is something like 3 days heavy, 1 day gymnastics, 1 day small muscle/sprints, 1 day Oly/metcon hybrid. In the spirit of his method, none of that is set in stone I will adjust as needed. Nutritionally, I am planning to go clean low carb paleo + whey 6/7 days per week and a single 3 hour get the fuck out cheat on monday nights. Kinda hammered right now and about to chase some tail...just to kick start the program. Roll Tide
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:53 AM   #12
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When I first came across his blog, I thought "Douchebag". I came back across it a couple months after and changed my mind.

That dude is nuts. In a good way. The numbers he put up in that meet were impressive.

If I remember right didn't he total elite with no belt a that meet at 181 or something?
Yes he did.

He's been lifting heavy since I first worked with him at the UA Rec Center...back then he was doing tricep bench dips with 4 - 45's loaded onto his legs. This was circa 1999.
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Old 10-16-2010, 03:09 PM   #13
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Appreciate all the replies. I think I am going to give it a 6 week shot and see how it goes. The plan is something like 3 days heavy, 1 day gymnastics, 1 day small muscle/sprints, 1 day Oly/metcon hybrid. In the spirit of his method, none of that is set in stone I will adjust as needed. Nutritionally, I am planning to go clean low carb paleo + whey 6/7 days per week and a single 3 hour get the fuck out cheat on monday nights. Kinda hammered right now and about to chase some tail...just to kick start the program. Roll Tide
I'm thinking you just missed the message of his blog near entirely...
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:51 PM   #14
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I'm thinking you just missed the message of his blog near entirely...
In what regard? I was a little bit sloppy last night ... but I think it's similar in method to what he does just incorporates skills I want to play with
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:17 PM   #15
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In what regard?
I'm not an authority on the topic, but it simply doesn't seem right to me.You'd have to ask Jamie for specifics.
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:34 PM   #16
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I'm thinking you just missed the message of his blog near entirely...
I'm guessing you mean the way he's planning his light days?

The way I read it is that there is really no cardio at all and light days are mainly to target the weak areas or cover the missed areas like abs, neck, arms, calves, a complex, etc. so the gymnastics/oly/crossfit thing doesn't really fit for the light days.
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Old 10-16-2010, 11:27 PM   #17
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the author of chaos and pain seems really focused on proving that he's tough.

on a serious note: if you expect to stick to a program like that, you're gonna want more carbs throughout the week to see some results.
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Old 10-17-2010, 05:02 PM   #18
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I'm guessing you mean the way he's planning his light days?

The way I read it is that there is really no cardio at all and light days are mainly to target the weak areas or cover the missed areas like abs, neck, arms, calves, a complex, etc. so the gymnastics/oly/crossfit thing doesn't really fit for the light days.
Having an 18" neck and whatnot aren't specific goals of mine, though I get that they may lend themselves to the lifting more than my activities. That being said, maintaining some athleticism and endurance as well as exploring new skills will keep me interested, as long as they don't push my ability to recover. But I'm just going to play it by ear and will change as needed.
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the author of chaos and pain seems really focused on proving that he's tough.

on a serious note: if you expect to stick to a program like that, you're gonna want more carbs throughout the week to see some results.
Yeah maybe. I was planning on titrating up as needed as I do pretty well on very low carbs.
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Old 10-17-2010, 06:38 PM   #20
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Dude, you deadlift 330#. Don't get all worked up over overly complicated programming. You can make tons of progress with a simple, 3 day a week, 3 sets of 5 routine like Starting Strength. I don't want it to be like I'm calling someone out on their lifts, but you definitely have plenty of room to build with a really simple program. You're making the same mistake tons and tons of novices make - you program at a level more appropriate for an advanced lifter and you don't make as much progress as if you used a program more appropriately matched to this point in your lifting career. I was in your shoes and I got this advice I'm giving you now, and I ignored it, as you will probably ignore me, and my progress stagnated for months before I went back to basics and used a program appropriate for my training level, and I was extremely successful with it. So hopefully once you have stagnated with your CnP style training you will remember this and try Starting Strength and you'll put some real weight on the bar. Good luck!
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