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Old 05-31-2011, 02:36 PM   #1371
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Exactly, Crossfit, has never, in any circumstance actually, provided any physiological evidence that has ever supported their "methodology", and by physiological evidence I mean training effect, short term and long term. What are the physiological effects, outcomes, adaptations, purpose or reason for anything thing they have ever programmed? Like what is the point of this work out, what is the long term purpose of this workout, physiologically, why is this week setup with workouts this way, why are these exercises assorted this way, why are the movements "couple" or "tripled" this way, why are these weights at this load, what is the reason for doing 30 snatches in a row when you are just catastrophically distorting the technique? Physiologically WHAT IS the purpose? They have never, ever, demonstrated anything remotely close to explaining this or made any attempt to compare what they've do to any other program or with any control. The only thing they provide is: "well, it increases work capacity." WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? Okay, you can finish a workout faster, but WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!

What does this mean!

What does the power output and joules and watts and horsepower and joules mean anything in relation to physiological adaptations, biological development and performance? What does it mean in for the nervous system, the muscle cells, tendons, bones. How does this relate to RFD, SSC, TUT, cellular metabolics/ bioenergetics etc

One athlete can do a fran in 2:00, and his identical twin can run a 2:00 800 meter; and the 2:00 800 actually has 4 times more power output and work performed in joules. But what the hell does that mean in physio? What do joules and watts mean to the human body? By their own definition, David Rudisha is 7 times fitter than the identical person that does a 1:40 fran.
An athlete can "snatch" 95 pounds 200 times in a row and put up 5 times greater joules, watts, horsepower than his identical twin that can snatch 145 kilograms, but he is definitely not more powerful, though joules and horsepower say so by crossfit's standard.

Its all snake oil, makes zero sense

They aslo have done a really good job with spreading myths and propaganda; a perfect recent example is with that Rhabdo Ben video; and another one is this picture:


I don't know who these athletes are, and I could be wrong on this and should look it up when I have time, but the guy on the left may be a masters level power walker.


Here's Samuel Wanjiru the 2008 olympic champion in the marathon (2:06 [almost half of brian mackenzie's pr])

He's Kenyan, 5'4", 110 pounds and ran 20 miles a day, still has muscle fibers in his legs. If you didn't know most of their diet is maze and tea, and it takes a decade of development to get on this level.



Kara Goucher, long distance American runner, 2:24 marathon (an hour and 20 minutes faster than brian mackenzie's pr), still has muscle fibers




By the way, Arnold Swartz back squated 260kg.
Chinese weightlifters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo5N5WMB6oY
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:59 AM   #1372
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Andrew, I believe the picture you're referring to is Finnish marathon runner Janne Holmen, he has a personal best of 2:10:46 according to wikipedia.

I remember seeing that pic posted on Crossfit Endurance, and someone said in the comments, as I remember, that they could get Holmen going "Sub 2 hours" if he did CFE. Also, the fact that the other athlete in the picture, Dwain Chambers, has been banned for doping violation obviously passed them by.
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:08 AM   #1373
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Thanks. Hahahahahaha wow.

A 2:10 is amazing, averaging 74" per 400 for 2 hours (105 laps), that's incredible. a 4:57 mile 26 times in a row, wow

how the hell could crossfit endurance get him to run sub 2 hours when their master programmer can't even run a sub 3 hours
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:37 AM   #1374
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how the hell could crossfit endurance get him to run sub 2 hours when their master programmer can't even run a sub 3 hours
Box jumps and board shorts, dude
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:23 AM   #1375
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The CrossFit Rhabdo Count 123
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:40 AM   #1376
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Unfortunately another American soldier:

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Old 06-01-2011, 10:52 AM   #1377
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So according to Competitor Magazine, Brian MacKenzie has run the Badwater 135 Ultramarathon.
http://www.competitor-digital.com/competitor/201106#pg1


Interesting that the official Badwater website lists every finisher in the history of the event, but has no record of any Brian MacKenzie

http://dbase.adventurecorps.com/badw...&searchstring=

He did attempt to run 40 miles through Badwater but had to cut his run short due to melting shoes. Interesting how other runners managed to avoid that.

http://watermansappliedscience.com/blog/?p=3062




Interesting that Brian actually ran his first WS the year after crewing at Badwater, not before as mentioned above.

"I was first introduced to Rhadbo in 2005 at the Badwater Ultramarthon pre race medical meeting. I was pacing and crewing John Radich...The very next year I got into and finished Western States 100"

http://www.iamunscared.com/the-hurt-locker/

MacKenzie is absent from 2005 WS results:
http://www.ws100.com/results05.htm
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:29 PM   #1378
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89 Brian MacKenzie Costa Mesa CA 296 32 M 30-39 31 26:47:59 16.08

2006 Shane.

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Old 06-01-2011, 01:08 PM   #1379
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89 Brian MacKenzie Costa Mesa CA 296 32 M 30-39 31 26:47:59 16.08

2006 Shane.

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15 women finished before him.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:34 PM   #1380
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How do the inventors of the elliptical machine live with themselves.
They are criminals.
Its a such non functional movement, a disease in our society, cavemen didn't have this blasphemy of human movement.
Look, 5 sessions of 30 minutes of cardio a week has mutated Jennifer Anniston's physique.




















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