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Old 08-05-2011, 07:23 PM   #2291
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:26 PM   #2292
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Old 08-06-2011, 04:54 AM   #2293
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Just a bump since CFNE did win the 2011 ReeBok CrossFit Games. Did they get tested this year?

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Old 08-06-2011, 07:43 AM   #2294
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Some funny comments:

http://withleather.uproxx.com/2011/0...crossfit-games

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Old 08-06-2011, 08:16 AM   #2295
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I'm trying to locate a video for umm...a "school project."
Anyway I distinctly remember watching a video of Greg Glassman at a cert, and some guy asks a totally innocent question and he gets absolutely embarassed by Glassman for something. He says something totally arrogant like "proof is the exclusive realm of mathematics--did you know that?"

I thought it was one of those "we gots the science" videos. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:30 AM   #2296
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I'm trying to locate a video for umm...a "school project."
Anyway I distinctly remember watching a video of Greg Glassman at a cert, and some guy asks a totally innocent question and he gets absolutely embarassed by Glassman for something. He says something totally arrogant like "proof is the exclusive realm of mathematics--did you know that?"

I thought it was one of those "we gots the science" videos. Any help would be appreciated.
http://journal.crossfit.com/2010/12/...andefining.tpl

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Old 08-06-2011, 10:22 AM   #2297
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this guy pretty much had the best wrap up of the games:

http://www.forgingelitesarcasm.com/2...-softball.html
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:38 AM   #2298
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I'm trying to locate a video for umm...a "school project."
Anyway I distinctly remember watching a video of Greg Glassman at a cert, and some guy asks a totally innocent question and he gets absolutely embarassed by Glassman for something. He says something totally arrogant like "proof is the exclusive realm of mathematics--did you know that?"

I thought it was one of those "we gots the science" videos. Any help would be appreciated.
Yeah, I was actually watching that the other day. The guy asks about peer review papers and it then gets really awkard.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:12 PM   #2299
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Hey guys, first time poster here. I actually found this thread from Kathy Derbshire's (sp?) post on the CF forums and have since read EVERY POST in this thing over a couple of weeks.

First of all, great documentation work Andrew. I was familiar with Rhabdo and SLAP tears from reading the CF boards regularly, but have never seen the details like this before. It still strikes me as completely crazy that the same few exercises (high rep GHD sit-ups and pull-up variations) cause most cases and are regularly Rx'd.

At anyrate, a bit about my story and what brings me here. I'm NOT a CrossFitter in the sense that I have never done:
-Kipping pull-ups
-GHD sit-ups
-SDHP
-high rep oly lifts
-worked out at an affiliate
Because I knew about the rigors of depth jumps before doing any CF workouts, I always stepped off the box instead of rebounding the few times I have done them for time.

Mostly, I wasn't an idiot and didn't do things that I didn't know how to do well.

That being said, CF was sort of my gateway into the world of fitness. I am a competitive ultimate (frisbee) player and stumbled onto CF when trying to figure out the best way to train for the sport. I probably would not squat, deadlift, bench, press, or know what the olympic lifts are (which I am learning) if it weren't for CF. For a long time, it has defined my view of fitness and been my primary source of (usually) quality information.

I've been doing 70s big strength and conditioning for a bit over a month now and never would have found that program if not for people on the CF boards.

Having read the boards at CF vigorously for the last 6-8 months (and off and on for 2.5 years before that), I knew to trust information from a few high quality names:

-Emily Mattes. One of my first threads was about what to do when my university gym didn't have a squat rack. She happened to use the same gym for awhile, gave advice, and even hopped into my log and provided good feedback at the beginning of my fitness journey.

-Shane Skowron. His Bodyweight workout resource is the single best piece of community service I've seen on a discussion board. I've used that guide tons of times, especially when travelling. His comments in every other thread were also always informed, well-thought out, and respectful.

-Tamara Cohen. Aside from being hilarious, she always gave great advice and clearly knew what she was talking about.

Now, all 3 of these people have been "moderated" for expressing well-reasoned dissent about CF's "methods". I'm at a crossroads seeing 3 amazing sources of information vanish from the boards. It now seems like Eric Montgomery and Chris Mason (who posts only infrequently) are two of the only members who work in the same spirit as the three above. On the one hand, I have a very hard time going to a board where I know the moderators are willing to exile some of the highest quality members for petty issues. On the other hand, it's still a very heavily trafficked board and has some good information.

Anyways, as I've now rambled way more than I meant to, just another thank you to Andrew and everyone else who has contributed to this thread. It's really opened my eyes to some of the fraudulent claims made by Glassman and crew (I do, however, think he still has good intentions believe it or not and I still do find value in the CFJ because of the pieces by Burgener, Starrett, Louie Simmons, Mason, etc etc) and the circumstances that lead to the exile of Greg Everett, Rob Wolff, Rip, etc. It seems like the control of the boards is just a digital manifestation of practices that CFHQ has practiced for years now.

Time to go read the rest of this board!
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Cheers mate! Welcome to the thread!
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