Just reread CrossFit Journal on Metabolic Conditioning...

[Derek Weaver]

Yeah, I posted that one up earlier, but it got lost in the fold somewhere in the last 80 pages or so.

Also posted the video of the random competition that happened at Lyle's gym a year or so ago. The CF'ers had mediocre oly form, but got blown out of the water by the Oly guys (no surprise there). BUT, they got owned by the tire and other metabolic work, where the Oly guys destroyed the tire.

So the guys who champion the effectiveness of metabolic conditioning got destroyed by it, where the guys who rarely got above 3 reps owned it.

CF = Pwnd

[Andrew Wilson]

[Justin Z. Smith]

New "cert" in the future?

http://www.crossfitmonrovia.com/cate...sfit-monrovia/

Justin

[Andrew Wilson]

[Justin Z. Smith]

Originally Posted by Andrew Wilson

My son was born when I was 20, he's about 5 right now and can snatch 20kg, and run a 15 second 100m.

Just wait until Glassman's sons compete!!!!

Justin

[Arien Malec]

And now for a brief interlude.

Why, some of you may be wondering, all the hate? Why 80+ pages of hate here, and 948+ pages of hate elsewhere?

#1: Crossfit in general, and Glassman in particular, have a penchant for character assassination for anyone who has the combination of independent thinking and real critique of the Crossfit program. Twight, Dan John, Rip, Greg, Robb, etc. Oddly, all of them have come to more or less the same conclusions. True, some Crossfit folks have come to the same conclusions, but only those who clearly sit in the affiliate system and have the potential to grow affiliate revenue are tolerated.
#2: The injury potential for the programming is pretty horrible, and only the implied threat or risk of litigation causes any tone down in potential. Case in point: the risk from high-rep GHD situps has been discussed multiple times on workout thread, the Crossfit forum, and by Glassman himself. Only when this thread put all the pieces together and documented a real chain of criminal or civil negligence on the part of Crossfit, did Budding show up with a video on how to scale GHD situps. Really?
#3: Crossfit mainsite programming (and what else could be called Crossfit?) is inferior for any purpose, including getting "fit", sport preparation, and even Crossfit Games preparation.

Combine all that with the pretention of eliteness, universal application, Crossfitters will dominate all sports, etc, and you have adequate justification for both hate and derision.

Now back to the fun.

[Tyler Fischer]

Trying to convince one of the clients at my gym to focus on weightlifting and stop messing around with CrossFit...

I would like to come out of sectionals with a clear plan and schedule. What if I qualify for Regionals? Fuck it. I'm going to be a weightlifter.

There is hope.

[Paul Zagaria]

This is the greatest thread I've ever read. So good that I finally registered just to be able to post a reply. My wife and I were former partners in an affiliate. I started cross fitting in 2006, opened up a gym the following year. Being a former marine and currently an urban cop for the last 20 years, I was drawn by the claims that cross fit was great for military and LEO. What a farce. I was constantly sore, tired, and miserable. I never realized the claims of increased strength. In fact, my dead lift and squat plummeted below 400 for the first time since my early 20's. Never increased my endurance either.

Our ex partners really bought into the concept that they were coaches, immediately on completing their level I cert. Despite the fact he had no athletic background whatsoever and her only experience with exercise was participating in a cardio kickboxing class to kill time until happy hour started, they were trainers.

Best thing I ever did was leave that mess and started lifting weights again. Went to coach b's cert and learned a little. Went to usaw cert and learned a lot. When I started lifting and running my 400/800 sprints and started training on the heavy bag again, it's amazing what happened: strength increased, endurance increased, leaned out again.

I did get some benefits from xfit though: met some decent people. And I received three shiny new anchors for my shoulder, in order to reattach my infraspinatus and supraspinatus.

Again, great job on this thread

[raj rihal]

Originally Posted by Paul Zagaria

And I received three shiny new anchors for my shoulder, in order to reattach my infraspinatus and supraspinatus.

That really sucks. I feel your pain. I gotta ask was it the injury the last straw or was that just part of the process?

The whole Military/LEO is a huge selling point. If its good enough for these guys who use their bodies all day it MUST be good enough for me. How much of the LE/First Responder/Mil community actually uses CF? Our gym was next door to the fire house and none of those dudes ever came in.

[Andrew Wilson]

Originally Posted by Paul Zagaria

This is the greatest thread I've ever read. So good that I finally registered just to be able to post a reply. My wife and I were former partners in an affiliate. I started cross fitting in 2006, opened up a gym the following year. Being a former marine and currently an urban cop for the last 20 years, I was drawn by the claims that cross fit was great for military and LEO. What a farce. I was constantly sore, tired, and miserable. I never realized the claims of increased strength. In fact, my dead lift and squat plummeted below 400 for the first time since my early 20's. Never increased my endurance either.

Our ex partners really bought into the concept that they were coaches, immediately on completing their level I cert. Despite the fact he had no athletic background whatsoever and her only experience with exercise was participating in a cardio kickboxing class to kill time until happy hour started, they were trainers.

Best thing I ever did was leave that mess and started lifting weights again. Went to coach b's cert and learned a little. Went to usaw cert and learned a lot. When I started lifting and running my 400/800 sprints and started training on the heavy bag again, it's amazing what happened: strength increased, endurance increased, leaned out again.

I did get some benefits from xfit though: met some decent people. And I received three shiny new anchors for my shoulder, in order to reattach my infraspinatus and supraspinatus.

Again, great job on this thread

That's great to hear!

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By the way, found out why my 1:42 Fran/ 0:57 Grace videos isn't on youtube; we had a lil wayne song on it and youtube copyright filtered it out. Explains why it never made CrossFit.com.
We're reuploading it tonight, can't right now, have things to do.