Home   |   Contact   |   Help

Get Our Newsletter
Sign up for our free newsletter to get training tips and stay up to date on Catalyst Athletics, and get a FREE issue of the Performance Menu journal.

Go Back   Catalyst Athletics Forums > Community > Community & Events

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-09-2011, 05:27 PM   #781
Derek Weaver
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,642
Default

Yeah, I posted that one up earlier, but it got lost in the fold somewhere in the last 80 pages or so.

Also posted the video of the random competition that happened at Lyle's gym a year or so ago. The CF'ers had mediocre oly form, but got blown out of the water by the Oly guys (no surprise there). BUT, they got owned by the tire and other metabolic work, where the Oly guys destroyed the tire.

So the guys who champion the effectiveness of metabolic conditioning got destroyed by it, where the guys who rarely got above 3 reps owned it.

CF = Pwnd
__________________
Quote:
And if you don't think kettleball squat cleans are difficult, I say, step up to the med-ball
- CJ Kim
Derek Weaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 05:33 PM   #782
Andrew Wilson
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,140
Default

Andrew Wilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 06:31 PM   #783
Justin Z. Smith
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 167
Default

New "cert" in the future?

http://www.crossfitmonrovia.com/cate...sfit-monrovia/

Justin
Justin Z. Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 07:08 PM
John Thomas
This message has been deleted by John Thomas.
Old 02-09-2011, 07:47 PM   #784
Andrew Wilson
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,140
Default

Andrew Wilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 08:01 PM   #785
Justin Z. Smith
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 167
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Wilson View Post
My son was born when I was 20, he's about 5 right now and can snatch 20kg, and run a 15 second 100m.
Just wait until Glassman's sons compete!!!!

Justin
Justin Z. Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 08:43 PM   #786
Arien Malec
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,035
Default

And now for a brief interlude.

Why, some of you may be wondering, all the hate? Why 80+ pages of hate here, and 948+ pages of hate elsewhere?

#1: Crossfit in general, and Glassman in particular, have a penchant for character assassination for anyone who has the combination of independent thinking and real critique of the Crossfit program. Twight, Dan John, Rip, Greg, Robb, etc. Oddly, all of them have come to more or less the same conclusions. True, some Crossfit folks have come to the same conclusions, but only those who clearly sit in the affiliate system and have the potential to grow affiliate revenue are tolerated.
#2: The injury potential for the programming is pretty horrible, and only the implied threat or risk of litigation causes any tone down in potential. Case in point: the risk from high-rep GHD situps has been discussed multiple times on workout thread, the Crossfit forum, and by Glassman himself. Only when this thread put all the pieces together and documented a real chain of criminal or civil negligence on the part of Crossfit, did Budding show up with a video on how to scale GHD situps. Really?
#3: Crossfit mainsite programming (and what else could be called Crossfit?) is inferior for any purpose, including getting "fit", sport preparation, and even Crossfit Games preparation.

Combine all that with the pretention of eliteness, universal application, Crossfitters will dominate all sports, etc, and you have adequate justification for both hate and derision.

Now back to the fun.
Arien Malec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 09:13 PM
Andrew Wilson
This message has been deleted by Andrew Wilson.
Old 02-10-2011, 04:42 AM   #787
Tyler Fischer
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 7
Default

Trying to convince one of the clients at my gym to focus on weightlifting and stop messing around with CrossFit...

Quote:
I would like to come out of sectionals with a clear plan and schedule. What if I qualify for Regionals? Fuck it. I'm going to be a weightlifter.
There is hope.
__________________
All embedded links are WFS because I can't watch porn at work.
Tyler Fischer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2011, 05:28 AM   #788
Paul Zagaria
New Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2
Default

This is the greatest thread I've ever read. So good that I finally registered just to be able to post a reply. My wife and I were former partners in an affiliate. I started cross fitting in 2006, opened up a gym the following year. Being a former marine and currently an urban cop for the last 20 years, I was drawn by the claims that cross fit was great for military and LEO. What a farce. I was constantly sore, tired, and miserable. I never realized the claims of increased strength. In fact, my dead lift and squat plummeted below 400 for the first time since my early 20's. Never increased my endurance either.

Our ex partners really bought into the concept that they were coaches, immediately on completing their level I cert. Despite the fact he had no athletic background whatsoever and her only experience with exercise was participating in a cardio kickboxing class to kill time until happy hour started, they were trainers.

Best thing I ever did was leave that mess and started lifting weights again. Went to coach b's cert and learned a little. Went to usaw cert and learned a lot. When I started lifting and running my 400/800 sprints and started training on the heavy bag again, it's amazing what happened: strength increased, endurance increased, leaned out again.

I did get some benefits from xfit though: met some decent people. And I received three shiny new anchors for my shoulder, in order to reattach my infraspinatus and supraspinatus.

Again, great job on this thread
Paul Zagaria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2011, 10:13 AM   #789
raj rihal
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Zagaria View Post
And I received three shiny new anchors for my shoulder, in order to reattach my infraspinatus and supraspinatus.
That really sucks. I feel your pain. I gotta ask was it the injury the last straw or was that just part of the process?

The whole Military/LEO is a huge selling point. If its good enough for these guys who use their bodies all day it MUST be good enough for me. How much of the LE/First Responder/Mil community actually uses CF? Our gym was next door to the fire house and none of those dudes ever came in.
raj rihal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2011, 10:26 AM   #790
Andrew Wilson
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,140
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Zagaria View Post
This is the greatest thread I've ever read. So good that I finally registered just to be able to post a reply. My wife and I were former partners in an affiliate. I started cross fitting in 2006, opened up a gym the following year. Being a former marine and currently an urban cop for the last 20 years, I was drawn by the claims that cross fit was great for military and LEO. What a farce. I was constantly sore, tired, and miserable. I never realized the claims of increased strength. In fact, my dead lift and squat plummeted below 400 for the first time since my early 20's. Never increased my endurance either.

Our ex partners really bought into the concept that they were coaches, immediately on completing their level I cert. Despite the fact he had no athletic background whatsoever and her only experience with exercise was participating in a cardio kickboxing class to kill time until happy hour started, they were trainers.

Best thing I ever did was leave that mess and started lifting weights again. Went to coach b's cert and learned a little. Went to usaw cert and learned a lot. When I started lifting and running my 400/800 sprints and started training on the heavy bag again, it's amazing what happened: strength increased, endurance increased, leaned out again.

I did get some benefits from xfit though: met some decent people. And I received three shiny new anchors for my shoulder, in order to reattach my infraspinatus and supraspinatus.

Again, great job on this thread
That's great to hear!

________

By the way, found out why my 1:42 Fran/ 0:57 Grace videos isn't on youtube; we had a lil wayne song on it and youtube copyright filtered it out. Explains why it never made CrossFit.com.
We're reuploading it tonight, can't right now, have things to do.
Andrew Wilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:45 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Subscribe to our Newsletter


Receive emails with training tips, news updates, events info, sale notifications and more.
ASK GREG

Submit your question to be answered by Greg Everett in the Performance Menu or on the website

Submit Your Question
WEIGHTLIFTING TEAM

Catalyst Athletics is a USA Weightlifting team of competitive Olympic-style weightlifters with multiple national team medals.

Read More
Olympic Weightlifting Book
Catalyst Athletics
Contact Us
About
Help
Newsletter
Products & Services
Gym
Store
Seminars
Weightlifting Team
Performance Menu
Magazine Home
Subscriber Login
Issues
Articles
Workouts
About the Program
Workout Archives
Exercise Demos
Text Only
Instructional Content
Exercise Demos
Video Gallery
Free Articles
Free Recipes
Resources
Recommended Books & DVDs
Olympic Weightlifting Guide
Discussion Forum
Weight Conversion Calculator