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Old 07-24-2013, 07:38 PM   #1
Colin Dutton
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Default 12 week complete cycle and met cons

Hi all, my first post around these parts, and I'm really glad to be a part of the community.

I'm currently on week 2 of the complete cycle and I'm hoping to get your thoughts on adding three or four additional met con workouts to go along side the program (this would be instead of the listed met cons in the program) as I am still trying to improve my overall fitness.

I will absolutely listen to my body and won't go into break down mode, but I'm thinking that ill add a run, row, gymnastics, and another run, all in an interval format. Any of you have any experience doing this I'd love to hear your perspectives on it. Thoughts, suggestions, etc would all be much appreciated!!

- Colin
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:35 AM   #2
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Ugh. Just do the program, or do some other program, or do your own thing and learn from your mistakes. If you want more metcon, you should sub-out some of the lifts, not some of the metcons. They are there to maintain your conditioning, not to improve it. If you want to get good at the olympic lifts, you shouldn't worry about the metcons.

There's a vast distance between break-down mode and optimal progress mode. Try the program. You'll find that lifting heavy that much is quite taxing by itself. If you really want to do an oly program (and since you are asking about one here, I assume you do), give it the 12 weeks and see how much you'll gain. Unless you are already a beast, I'm betting that you will be much better at metcons when you are done, even if your 5K time is slower, simply because you are that much stronger. Work on conditioning then, if you want. You'll be starting with a much stronger foundation upon which to build.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:09 AM   #3
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PS The "ugh" isn't really directed at you, Colin - more at the pervasive misperception that mix-and-match programming is somehow ideal simply because broad-based fitness is the goal. Yes, there are times when it is appropriate, but when you're trying to get good at something as difficult as the olympic lifts is not going to the best time. I'm not saying you can't have some success - only that the program is designed to be demanding and is accordingly beneficial. Why sabotage that before you start?
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:43 PM   #4
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Patrick, your thoughts are very appreciated. I'm consistently conflicted on this stuff... As a coach, I understand the science and theory, but in practice it's hard to wrap my head around the idea that I can get leaner just by lifting heavy... But my diet is dialed in, so I'll stay the course.

Thanks brother. Love the honesty.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:37 PM   #5
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You have to pick a number one goal. If it's to get better at weightlifting, then do weightlifting. If it's to get lean, then change your diet and get lean. But, your actions should support your number one goal, and everything else should be secondary. We have a lifter trying to diet down two weight classes right now. I absolutely do not care about the weight on her barbell. I absolutely DO care about the weight on her scale.

Pick a number one goal, pick a timeline, and attack that goal within that timeline.
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