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Old 07-19-2014, 05:58 AM   #1
Kristoffer Andersen
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Default Footwidth in OL Weightlifting stance?

Does the legs have to be inside the grip, and the grip tp be outside the legs when holding the bar in starting position? I have for the most time hold a wide stance, almost sumo-like, so that I'm holding the bar inside my footstance. Could this be a good thing, or does the technique or competitions require the legs to be placed inside the grip when holding the bar?

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Old 07-20-2014, 12:09 AM   #2
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I''m not gonna outright say it can't be done just because I've never seen it done, but I just don't see how you could get the mechanics to work like that. You absolutely want a narrow stance with the arms outside.if and when you need a wider stance to catch the bar in the front sauatbposition, you do just that: move your legs out.
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Old 07-21-2014, 10:54 AM   #3
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I''m not gonna outright say it can't be done just because I've never seen it done, but I just don't see how you could get the mechanics to work like that. You absolutely want a narrow stance with the arms outside.if and when you need a wider stance to catch the bar in the front sauatbposition, you do just that: move your legs out.
Ye, i see what you mean. Every professional does this. (1) But if you got long legs, can you then still do the excerciseswith a narrow stance? (2) Is there any method to fix this for long legged-persons?
(3) When i lift, i feel like my back have mush easier to get a little round when in this small stance (I actually think it gets...). Do you have any advice on how to fix this?
(4) I guess i just should continue to learn the correct technique on this stance instead of just switching to a more comfortable stance, right?
(5) And you do stand in a little broader stance when doing the snatch, right?

I do though see a mistake I do (the first tip in video), when looking at this instruction video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb2CN6mEZkM - about sitting/tip too much backwards.

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Old 07-22-2014, 12:35 AM   #4
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1) Well, I have very long legs and particularly femurs, but it's never been an issue, and I don't think it should be an issue with any physique. The first pull really is just needed in order to get yourself set up for the second pull, which you can't really do effectively any other way.

2) You may need to push your knees out during the first pull. This may lead to some discomfort with your arms halfway through the first pull, but I'd still keep them outside the knees. It's essential for setting up the second pull, and this might let you be in a better position to do so.

3) It can be a mobility issue. Alternatively, pushing the knees out during the first pull may help.

4) I remember seeing an interview with a Chinese Olympic gold medalist who said that even after 20 years of training, neither lift feels comfortable for him. So yes, I would definitely learn the correct technique and disregard comfort.

5) I've never heard of this. My stance has always been the same for both lifts, just with different hand placement. For the sake of consistency, I think that's probably the best way to go. When you get to the squat position, there may be some slight variation between the two lifts, but I don't see why you'd want to have a different starting position. Once again: not saying it can't be done, just I've never come across it and don't see why you'd want to do that.
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1) Well, I have very long legs and particularly femurs, but it's never been an issue, and I don't think it should be an issue with any physique. The first pull really is just needed in order to get yourself set up for the second pull, which you can't really do effectively any other way.

2) You may need to push your knees out during the first pull. This may lead to some discomfort with your arms halfway through the first pull, but I'd still keep them outside the knees. It's essential for setting up the second pull, and this might let you be in a better position to do so.

3) It can be a mobility issue. Alternatively, pushing the knees out during the first pull may help.

4) I remember seeing an interview with a Chinese Olympic gold medalist who said that even after 20 years of training, neither lift feels comfortable for him. So yes, I would definitely learn the correct technique and disregard comfort.

5) I've never heard of this. My stance has always been the same for both lifts, just with different hand placement. For the sake of consistency, I think that's probably the best way to go. When you get to the squat position, there may be some slight variation between the two lifts, but I don't see why you'd want to have a different starting position. Once again: not saying it can't be done, just I've never come across it and don't see why you'd want to do that.
Thank you for helping a newbeginner! I really appreciate it! Good info!

But when we're talking about stances, lets also talk about grip "width"!
When youre doing the Clean and Jerk, (1) the rule is that the arms should be in a shoulder-wide grip, right? (2) Can you hold it any wider than shoulder-width? Whats the normal? (3) When you are going to go into the Jerk stance - do you then change your grip? Or is it exactly the same as rest of the lift/the clean?
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