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Old 04-03-2007, 07:38 AM   #1
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Ok, so sweet potatos, yams, parsnips, squash are all paleo but why not just regular old potatos?
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:41 AM   #2
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They are a better option than grains but just easy to over do. Especially if you scramble them with eggs and onions then cover the whole mess with salsa...
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:48 AM   #3
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Regular potatoes are also nightshades. Read the section about toxic compounds in the Wikipedia potato article.
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:16 PM   #4
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Well anythings easy to over-do, why aren't sweet potatoes easy to overdo? I'm just looking at and comparing the macro-calorie break downs of certain starchy foods and potatos don't rate too bad. As for the argument of nightshades well if I was avoiding nightshade I wouldn't get to eat tomatos, capsicums, or eggplant which would suck.

Carb - Fiber - Sugar
Yam - 27.58 - 3.9 - 0.49
sweet - 20.71 - 3.3 - 6.48
potatoe - 20.01 - 1.8 - 0.85
parsnips - 17.01 - 3.6 - 4.8
squash - 14.58 - 4.4 - N/A

Now I haven't eaten potatoes in a long time and I do my best to avoid them but I see people recommending yams and sweet potatoes plus they're both in many of the PM recipes(god love them) but you never see regular potatoes. In fact they're pretty ostracized and shunned...

He's asking too many questions and shows the signs on thinking on his own, raise the alarm.
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Well anythings easy to over-do, why aren't sweet potatoes easy to overdo? I'm just looking at and comparing the macro-calorie break downs of certain starchy foods and potatos don't rate too bad. As for the argument of nightshades well if I was avoiding nightshade I wouldn't get to eat tomatos, capsicums, or eggplant which would suck.

Carb - Fiber - Sugar
Yam - 27.58 - 3.9 - 0.49
sweet - 20.71 - 3.3 - 6.48
potatoe - 20.01 - 1.8 - 0.85
parsnips - 17.01 - 3.6 - 4.8
squash - 14.58 - 4.4 - N/A

Now I haven't eaten potatoes in a long time and I do my best to avoid them but I see people recommending yams and sweet potatoes plus they're both in many of the PM recipes(god love them) but you never see regular potatoes. In fact they're pretty ostracized and shunned...

He's asking too many questions and shows the signs on thinking on his own, raise the alarm.
Yep, all those other dense carb sources can obviously be over done. That said I prefer starchier carbs for post workout feeding to preferentially refill muscle glycogen instead of liver glycogen. Nightshades CAN be problematic in arthritic conditions...ditching them might suck but significant anecdotal and research information supports their removal or limitation dietary. Talk to coach Burgner for his take on that.

i don't view these things as hard fast rules but rather probabilities and relative trade-offs. Are dense carb sources BAD? obviously not depending on how they are utilized. Are nightshades BAD? Perhaps for some people, under certain conditions.

Problems arise when we try to impose a strict systems of rules instead of understanding the nuances.
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Old 04-04-2007, 08:40 AM   #6
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Look at the micronutrients of Potatos vs sweets, I thought I remembered reading sweet potatoes, carrots, and starchy vegetables other than potatoes just have more micronutrients and are not as poisonous.

I heard that if you eat a raw potato you could die?
I did not know if that is true but I did not want to try it to find out. Has anyone else tried it?
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:00 AM   #7
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I grew up working my family's farm eating any vegetables in the garden any way: cooked, raw, etc... Potatoes (both seet and not) were certainly grown as well. I'm still alive. I'm not very strong, but still breathing.

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Look at the micronutrients of Potatos vs sweets, I thought I remembered reading sweet potatoes, carrots, and starchy vegetables other than potatoes just have more micronutrients and are not as poisonous.

I heard that if you eat a raw potato you could die?
I did not know if that is true but I did not want to try it to find out. Has anyone else tried it?
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Way better nutrition from the sweet's and yams. I;'ve heard about some serious GI upset form raw/undercooked potatoes but i think it would be tough to kill with a raw spud!
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i think it would be tough to kill with a raw spud!
You have obviously never fired a potato cannon.
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You have obviously never fired a potato cannon.
No Sir...I have not. But I am potato cannon curious...
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