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Old 09-12-2011, 08:35 AM   #41
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Just a quick note. I've done a 180 and come right back to thinking that maintaining an aerobic base is necessary for a rugby player, even in the off season.

I'm discussing rugby training with a few folks and this thread came up.
Shaf,

Is this on the IGX board?

From IGx, you like longer (working up to 40min) runs to condition the joints/tendons/etc for the game. Then adding intervals in 1:1 work:rest ratio, working up to 40min to get the body used to the pace of the game. Any more to add to this?

I want to start playing rugby. There are a few clubs in my area. Where should I start? From the other thread, skillwise practice running and picking up a ball and passing and catching it both to the right and left. Also, I was going to work on my drop kicks. Should I be practicing these on my own, or just getting out and work with a club?

As for conditioning/strength, I am 37, weigh 185, lift 2-3days a week doing a pull (snatch and clean) and squat one day, a press (bench, military, etc) and hinge (KB swing, DLs) another. I do like to run, tempo about 20min. Should probably add some time and the intervals.

Any more advice? Thanks a lot.

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Old 09-12-2011, 08:55 AM   #42
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http://www.irongarmx.net/phpBB2/view...p?f=2&t=218133

Pretty much reflects my current thought.

I'd get hooked up with a club for the ball skills acquisition. Basic ball skills, are in my mind:

short pop pass
long passes
(either side)
stripping the ball (from teammates in maul situation, or opposite team hung up in a maul facing you)
picking the ball up cleanly while at a full run

I was never a good kicker, but practicing drop kicks isn't going to hurt, neither is practicing your kicks for touch.

Playing rugby successfully is all about pain tolerance.

Conditioning.

Longer, moderately paced runs build the aerobic base and help condition the joints for running...this is much less important when you're young, but really, really important as you get older. At 37, if you don't have the ability to run for 30 minutes continuously, build this up. If you do, I'd say get 3 or so runs in a week for a few weeks just to make sure.

Fast/slow intervals would come next.

Concurrent with that, short non-running conditioning work can be done. Sled dragging and the prowler come to mind, as do some Crossfit style training, as long as you aren't compromising your recovery ability.
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:26 AM   #43
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Thanks Shaf.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:48 AM   #44
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I was never a good kicker, but practicing drop kicks isn't going to hurt, neither is practicing your kicks for touch.
Somewhere in Australia Heffernan is rolling around laughing at the idea of you taking shots at goal.

I would put the heaviest emphasis on catching and passing. It's something that can look so simple but holds many players back.

Are you guys able to watch any of the World Cup?
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:44 AM   #45
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I should, but probably won't.

I drop kicked exactly 1 goal in my career. I tried 3 times.

I could punt for touch like a mofo, but didn't do it often given my preference for smash-mouth, bloody-knuckle play off the ruck.

One bit, Pat, that I can tell you. 99% of the time, it's better to run straight up field than laterally looking for openings. Even if you are a lithe, agile, pretty 165# winger.
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:54 AM   #46
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James,

Yeah, I have caught 2 games, NZ against Tonga and Ireland beating US. We are getting more and more rugby on TV, especially Sevens.

After watching it for about a year and "thinking" about playing it for 15years, it is time for me to get off my ass onto the pitch.


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