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Old 05-03-2007, 12:51 PM   #1
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Is there any kind of caloric ceiling on any one meal?

I know this becomes less relevant when fasting, but I just calculated the last meal I ate and it was in the range of 1700 calories.

And, it wasn't paleo, either, amigo, nor low carb.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:34 PM   #2
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Steve,
What do you mean by caloric ceiling?

From what I'm taking you to mean, I'd have to say that the caloric ceiling of someone doing IF is way over 1700 calories...
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:49 PM   #3
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I'm polishing off a 1900 calorie (paleo and low carb) meal as we speak.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:40 PM   #4
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Steve-
Like are there any deleterious effects? I have no idea. Large meals do seem to cause an up-tik in oxidative damage but the pulsatile nature of intermittent fasting should turn that into a hormetic effect...but its just a guess.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:44 PM   #5
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And, it wasn't paleo, either, amigo, nor low carb.

Hey Esa you're not throwing down a dozen of tacos right now are you?
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:27 PM   #6
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Robb,
ever since you wrote that article on Hormesis you just love throwing that hormetic effect line around don't you!
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:32 AM   #7
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ever since you wrote that article on Hormesis you just love throwing that hormetic effect line around don't you!
Dude...it's a chick magnet. It's what finally broke Nicki down.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:06 AM   #8
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1700 calories just sounds like a Large Frozen Pizza......ahhhh that's easy.....
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:46 PM   #9
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Doesn't Dr. Sears say somewhere that it doesn't matter what your food choices are past 5 blocks of protein, in terms of insulin response? That is, that you'll get a big insulin spike if you go over that. Anyway, that would be one effect (but you're getting that from the carbs already) and one way to decide how to measure a "caloric ceiling".

Another way would be to ask how much can your body use before it shunts real nutrients out to waste. T-Nation just published an article today on the limits of muscle-building during a "bulking" phase. It has some interesting numbers to help guide how much to eat for mass that might help define such a ceiling. Here's the link:

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956

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Edit--article was from 2006; it was linked to in the Roussell article posted today about "Top 3 Nutritional Mistakes".
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:16 AM   #10
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Shaf posted a great article on changing the amounts and timing of nutrient intake...big post wo meal with the lions share of protein at that time. Anyone remember that one?
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