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Kellen Love 01-27-2009 01:55 PM

Turbulence Training
 
So I've searched the forums and this wasn't really addressed. I've been reading Cosgrove, and I like what he has to say. I've also been reading about Ballantyne's turbulence training. Dude is shredded. It also comes with high marks from Cosgrove, who is quoted in a couple of his own articles talking about how great TT is for fat loss. Does anyone have any experience with TT? Any thoughts? It seems similar to Afterburn (which I like), but is also roughly $30 cheaper (which I like because I'm a student). Any experience or related expertise would be much appreciated.

Mike ODonnell 01-27-2009 03:56 PM

Same principles I believe....supersetting compound movements. You could make your own workout with antagonistic compound movements for free. The shredding comes from eating right.

Andrew Ager 01-27-2009 04:24 PM

I tried one of the TT bodyweight workouts a few times over the end of December, and I have to say ... I vastly preferred CF Alpha bodyweight workouts. I can see, however, that coming from a different style of training to that kind of thing would really gas someone.

And ditto on shredding coming via eating.

Derek Simonds 01-27-2009 04:58 PM

I recommended TT to a friend of mine that wasn't really interested in CF. He has had great success with it. I have done several of Craig's workouts and find them to be challenging. He has a good plan if you aren't going the CF route.

I subscribe to his blog and read his updates. I say if you like it go for it.

Mike ODonnell 01-27-2009 06:35 PM

Kellen, I think the consensus is that many things can and will work....if you stick with it. Whether CF, TT or Cosgrove's stuff....lots of ways, and no way is really better than the other (even if some try to sell it that way). Lastly focus mainly on your nutrition....otherwise you are just wasting your effort in the gym if getting lean and ripped is your goal.

Kellen Love 01-27-2009 09:16 PM

Thanks for the responses. I get what you're saying, but as many of us know its easier to work out than to eat really well. I need to pick some damn thing and do it and stop looking for new things. There's a time and a place for that.

Dave Van Skike 01-27-2009 09:18 PM

waste of money....and I haven't even read it. "systems" are a red herring.

Google, a library card and about thirty hours of your TV time will get you everything you need to know about the basics.

here's a sneak preview..

the basics work
there are only three things to work on from a "fitness" perspective
strength work
flexibility mobility
conditioning.
These are constants, they were not invented, trademarked or franchised.

how you look in the mirror is a combination of the above (maybe max 20%) and how you eat (likely 80%+)

Generally, I'd say avoid books by internet fitness dudes but Ross Enamait's books are great because if you're a novice, he tells you the why then the what and lays out good examples of how... plus he's got gobs of real world experience training athletes...and he's not an idiot.

other easy starting books with a strength bias include:

Power to the People
The Complete Keys to Progress
Practical Programming and Starting Strength

Kellen Love 01-27-2009 11:55 PM

Fair enough. What about a book like Afterburn? People have good experiences with that? I'm just curious and checking out different options.

Kellen Love 01-28-2009 12:05 AM

I started reading about Ross Enamait and I like what I see so far. I'll have to do more reading when I get a chance, but he looks legit. And his books are more affordable as well.

Derek Weaver 01-28-2009 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellen Love (Post 48841)
Thanks for the responses. I get what you're saying, but as many of us know its easier to work out than to eat really well. I need to pick some damn thing and do it and stop looking for new things. There's a time and a place for that.

Ahem. I believe the old adage used by Cosgrove himself on occasion is something along the lines of "You can't outwork a crappy diet".

You've got at least 3 responses noting that nutrition is minimum 80% of the equation.

My recommendation is to do what Dave said. Use google and spend some time perusing any number of the thousands of approaches that can be used for fat loss.

TT, Afterburn (which you noted was quite expensive), etc. It doesn't matter. Work out hard (CF.com is free). Coach Rut's blog is good too and he's got a 3x/week MEBB schedule he's putting up right now).

If you must invest... Ross Enaimat is a solid choice.


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