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Kellen Love 04-23-2009 06:21 PM

Lyle's Rapid Fatloss Handbook
Hey there. I was wondering if anyone had a copy of the ebook of Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook that they could email me. I'm not trying to rip the man off, but I've tried for hours to buy it on his site and for some reason his site isn't working right. I'll send him a dang check after I read it, it's just that I want to get started on this right away. Thank you for your help.

Emily Mattes 04-23-2009 07:05 PM

Why not email him or post on the forum regarding the site problems?

Gant Grimes 04-24-2009 04:25 AM

First, that's not what this forum is for, Kellen.

Second, Lyle puts out tons of free material on his site and in his newsletter.

Third, I'm going to give you some unsolicited advice that I would've appreciated were I in your position. STOP F***ING AROUND AND FOLLOW A PROGRAM.

I just read all your posts, and your chief concerns seem to be losing weight, buying books about losing weight by "dudes who are shredded," and doing that programs that will burn fat. You have discussed HIIT, Afterburn, the V-Diet, IF+Zone, and fat loss stuff by Cosgrove, Lyle, and others. You have also mentioned that you have put together a program for yourself based on stuff here and on CF (but are also interested in RossE).

I hope I don't offend you by saying you're in no position to program for yourself just yet. Stop looking for answers in a book and listen to the smart people who have given you good advice. I don't understand the somewhat recent male fascination with male abs, but hey, every generation is different. Suffice it to say you can get there following any one of numerous training or nutrition programs. Pick one and stick with it. If you lose weight simply by buying books, we wouldn't be the obsese society we are. Good luck.

Duke McCall 04-24-2009 07:05 AM

Gant makes a good point. The only magic elixir out there for rapid fat loss is commitment and discipline.

Kellen Love 04-24-2009 08:51 AM

Despite what my posts may indicate, I'm not some teenager trying to get abs or to "get shredded like Brad Pitt in fight club." I am, believe it or not, an athlete. I had two knee surgeries, and that inactivity combined with beer consumption has led to me gaining unwanted weight that I'm now trying to get rid of. I'm not worried about abs, I want to be at a good level where I can push my athleticism and maybe look good too. I just don't want to be looked at as a pariah, it isn't easy being overweight and despite the general perception, there are those of us who want to do something about it.

Kellen Love 04-24-2009 05:22 PM

I also wanted to add that even though it probably wasn't your intention, I don't appreciate being made to look like an ass clown. Granted, I'm not a professional like many people on this site, but I am knowledgeable from a lot of study I've done on my own. And I ask questions and read all these books and diets to gain knowledge and see what I can use and what I can throw out. I've never asked anything that didn't pertain to health and wellness and performance, so I just dont appreciate being made to look like a loser who doesn't know what he's talking about. Again, I don't believe that this was your intention but I was unhappy with the way your post came off.

Mike ODonnell 04-25-2009 09:54 AM

Group hug....and if Lyle doesn't want to sell you an ebook...I will be happy too :)

Kellen Love 04-27-2009 09:37 AM

MOD I know you're the man and I would buy anything you're selling!

Duke McCall 04-27-2009 11:37 AM

Kellen, for what it is worth, I do not think Gant intended any offense. I understood him to be saying that what program you choose to follow is not as important as comitting to and sticking with a program. I agree with that setiment wholeheartedly based on my personal weight loss experience. I currently eat mostly zone/paleo foods, but most of my weight loss occured following a more traditional high-carb diet.

Gant Grimes 04-27-2009 01:42 PM

Kellen, if my being an ass keeps you from throwing your money at fat-loss books, I'll gladly accept that. If you want to be pissed at me and prove me wrong, I welcome that, too.

A lot of the stuff you have mentioned are good resources, but there's a time and a place for that. I understand how you feel as an aging athlete that has put on weight, lost some ability, and suffered an injury or two. I'll also tell you it's just going to get worse until you do something about it. I spent months reading and "getting ready" to lose weight. I wanted to find the best program. All the while, I was getting fatter, eating crappier, and feeling worse. Then I grabbed some sack, got myself sorted, and got back on the path. I've been through a couple different nutrition programs and several different S&C routines, but I'm 30 pounds lighter, a lot stronger, and better at my sport than I used to be.

At this point, it doesn't matter what you do.

If you just want to lose fat, do the Zone diet and Body for Life, P90X, or Yoga for Regular Guys.

If you want to lose fat and improve performance, do CrossFit, Ross Boxing, or Dragon Door, Core Performance, or Gymnastic Bodies.

If you're not leaning out quickly enough, do Paleo Zone.

If you want more strength, do Paleo or Warrior diet and do Starting Strength, CA WOD, 5-3-1, WSFSB, straight OLY, or a hybrid program.

There are other nutrition programs and other S&C programs that will work just as well. The best program is the one you aren't doing. So do the next best--the one that you will stick with for three solid months.

I'm on your side, Kellen. Step up and pick a training and eating plan from above. Give it 12 weeks--unaltered--and you will not be disappointed. 12 weeks! Don't do anything else. I promise you'll get results. Will you do this?

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