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Wayne Riddle 04-12-2010 09:08 AM

Steve Gibson Follow Up on Mag
Re: Vit D and Magnesium

he is taking 2 grams (not milligrams) a day of Magnesium.

Garrett Smith 04-12-2010 12:29 PM

Who is this guy?

I've taken 1600 mg of Mag citrate + Mag carbonate in a day with no issue. That's not even including what I took in from foods.

Spreading dosing out to 4x/day also reduces the bowel issue, most people generally only will take their Mag 1 or 2x/day.

Albion is not the only company doing chelated minerals, so his post sounds more like a commercial to me.

Wayne Riddle 04-12-2010 02:13 PM

hehe, he is actually a tech guy, but dives into health issues from time to time. His web site is www.grc.com, actually has a nice write-up on vitamin d there that he did. He has posted follow-ups to his newsgroup.

To the best of my knowledge, and Steve is usually pretty forth coming about any ties he has, Steve has no relationship with Albion.

Tony Ferous 04-13-2010 07:06 AM

I had a quick look and didnt find his credentials.

He has some interesting points though below, if accurate.
A Q i have is - what 'form' are minerals in food? ie they are not mg oxide or citrate etc, so what are they?
As for Albions method, even if it is better absorbed, how do they know the effect of that the mg+lysine+glycine molecule aborbed intact in the bloodsteam has?

The Albion-based mineral supplements are not based on simple
"salt" formulations such as Magnesium Citrate, -Malate,
-Taurate, -Oxide, etc. All of those simple salts are
"disassociated" (dissolved) by our stomach acid into their
constituent parts. Then... in order for the ionic form of the
mineral -- such as Magnesium -- to get into our blood stream, it
must bond to a protein carrier. Those are in limited supply,
and all of the various minerals in intestine are vying for and
competing for "transport proteins".

The patented Albion solution is different: Guided by some
research (PDF link below) they bind their Magnesium with a pair
of amino acids -- in this case Glycine and Lysine. This forms a
"dipeptide" which strongly resists disassociation (dissolving)
in our stomach. So the whole molecule tends to make it into our
intestines where it is "taken up" into our blood stream WITHOUT
the need for any carrier proteins. The result is TRULY much
greater absorption.

I took 2 tsp of natural calm this week...and yes went straight through ;-( 1 at a time for now..

Wayne Riddle 04-13-2010 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Tony Ferous (Post 74201)
I had a quick look and didnt find his credentials.

Beyond a "passion" I doubt he really has any in the nutritional/supplement field, just doing his own research. His credentials are all in the IT field, especially security, where he is well known.

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