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James Evans 10-26-2010 04:52 AM

Old article on CFE
 
This must be 2 years old now but I stumbled across a link to it yesterday. I've really not taken too much notice of CrossFit Endurance other than seeing the DNF remarks on different sites.

Wow! What a humble guy...

http://gregbashore.wordpress.com/201...ance-training/

I particularly like the idea of of taking a world champion and completely changing the way he trains/who he is because you know better

Hmm, and you complete an Iron Man 2 hours slower than Chrissie Wellington but hey, what's her Fran time.

Geoffrey Thompson 10-26-2010 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by James Evans (Post 82131)
I particularly like the idea of of taking a world champion and completely changing the way he trains/who he is because you know better

Right, but it'll take a couple years before he sees any results and he might get slower in the mean time.

James Evans 10-26-2010 07:21 AM

But he provides a caveat in case of disappointment:

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Unfortunately, he probably wouldn’t be able to wrap his head around that, and have a break down, and secretly go out and swim/bike/run real long. I can’t give you his code for training because they are all different, but I can tell you he would not only not survive with me but would not win Kona if I only had a year.
He can't handle the truth!

Garrett Smith 10-26-2010 01:37 PM

They would use the year to mentally prep him for disappointment across broad time and modal domains.

Derek Weaver 10-26-2010 02:46 PM

Wait a second, that McCormack guy has won what I would assume is a big race (Kona) in the past, but he couldn't handle Bmack's angle? Is that because he wants to, you know, win?

Seriously, how can you tout something as superior, when the opening paragraph says you'll finish a few hours behind your competitors? Racing just to finish is fine, but is CFE even necessary just to cross the finish line?

Garrett Smith 10-26-2010 03:15 PM

Until CFE has built their own champion from near-scratch, the fact that people believe them is due to people's own stupidity and ability to fall for bombastic marketing.

Still waiting to hear about the pro or college teams in any sport attributing their dominance over even a two-year period to CF.

Derek Weaver 10-26-2010 03:23 PM

I really enjoy the part about metcon being the most important aspect of their training.

Nothing like a 5 minute vomit fest to simulate the rigors of a 100 mile, 8+ hour race.

Who needs specificity anyway? Other than champions I mean.

Garrett Smith 10-26-2010 03:29 PM

The way I see it, if the great Dan John was duped by CF, then I shouldn't feel too bad about falling for it for a while too.

For some people, the perception of effort is more important to them than the results. Note that the first group isn't typically the winning group.

Derek Weaver 10-26-2010 03:49 PM

You speak definitely speak the truth.

If the first group is the winning group, they're usually fairly quiet about what they're doing. No need to talk it up if you're already at the top of the podium.

Not just actions, but results, speak louder than words.

Gant Grimes 10-26-2010 04:34 PM

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If Chris McCormack came to you and said “I want to win Kona this year (again)” how would you train him?
Quote:

Originally Posted by CFE
I’d tell him I can’t train him. An athlete like that is such a specialist that it would take me 2-3 years just to get him moving correctly enough to handle what I wanted to do to him.

vs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me
Uhhh...what'd you do last year when you won the damn thing? Cool. Do that again.

Then again, I'm not very smart.


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