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Andrew Wilson 12-13-2010 10:37 PM

Video Reenactment: CrossFitters argue they're fitter than Olympic Decathletes
 
Just in case you didn't want to read it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjuqZMZCPd8 with Decathlete stats

Mahir Barbaro 01-26-2011 03:37 PM

I've heard you mention this before, and I wanted to check out the video but it's been removed. Any way you can link the original convo? It almost seems to crazy to be true.

Andrew Wilson 01-27-2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahir Barbaro (Post 86056)
I've heard you mention this before, and I wanted to check out the video but it's been removed. Any way you can link the original convo? It almost seems to crazy to be true.

yep should probably put that back up: http://games2010.crossfit.com/blog/2...-holmberg,698/

Dmitriy Karpov bench press: 140kg
400m: 46:81
Maurice Green bench press: 152kg, squat 250kg, rep power clean 140kg

Tomas Dvorak & Roman Sebrle weekly km: 42000m
Both swim 3 days a week

Bryan Clay squat 272kg, bench 161kg, power clean 152kg, standing vertical jump 44in

Chris Huffins WR in 100m: 10.22s
Erki Nool WR in Long Jump: 8.22m
Edy Hubacher WR in Shot Put: 19.17m
Rolf Beilschmidt & Christian Schenk WR in High Jump: 2.27m
Bill Toomey WR in 400m: 45.68s
Frank Busemann WR in 110m hurdles: 13.47
Bryan Clay WR in Discus: 55.87m
Tim Lobinger WR in Pole Vault: 5.76m
Peter Blank WR in Javelin 79.8m
Robert Baker WR in 1500m 3.58

Bryan Clay:
Weights 180 pounds
Squats 272kg (598)
Benches 161kg (354)
Power Cleans 152kg (334)
Standing Vertical Jump 43in
60 m - 6.65
60 m hurdles - 7.77
100 m - 10.35
200 m - 21.34
400 m - 47.78
110 m hurdles - 13.64
1000 m - 2:49.41
1500 m - 4:38.93
long jump - 8.06
high jump - 2.10
pole vault - 5.15
shot put - 16.27
discus throw - 55.87
javelin throw - 72.00



Roman Sebrle's PB:
60m - 6.91
100m - 10.64
200m - 21.74
300m - 35.12
400m - 47.76
1000m - 2:37
1500m - 4:21
60m hurdles - 7.84
110m hurdles - 13.68
High Jump - 2.15m
Pole Vault - 5.2m
Long Jump - 8.11m
Shot Put - 16.47m
Discus Throw - 49.37m
Javelin Throw - 71.18m


trey hardee
110 mhurdles 13.54
High jump 2.05
Pole vault 5.15
Long jump 8.04
Shot put 13.11
Discus throw 43.71
Javelin throw 53.70

ashton eaton
100 m 10.40
200 m 21.09
400 m 47.51
1500 m 4:42
110 m hurdles 13.71
High jump 2.05m
Pole vault 5.25m
Long jump 7.83m
Shot put 15.33m
Discus throw 52.68m
Javelin throw 68.00m

Geoffrey Thompson 01-27-2011 08:12 PM

A lot of people just don't know how crazy freaky elite athletes really are. "Yeah, I'm sure he's great at those ten events. And lots of other related athletic endeavours. But what's their Fran time? What about broad time and modal domains? That are unknown and unknowable?" I just had this conversation on that Slate article. They just don't have the context to realize how impressive a high-level track and field athlete is and how silly a flopping-around-and-playing-with-pansy-weights competition is in comparison to the athletic performance at a decathlon (or even just one event!).

Andrew Wilson 01-28-2011 08:33 AM

Yeah most of the events don't translate to people that never have been around them. They don't understand how difficult it is to have a 10 second 100m, or a 47 second 400m, or a 4 minute+ mile; and have all three that strong. A sub 4minute miler can run a sub 60 sec 400m, deca have to have a 400m sub 50 sec. It's taking a 10 second 100m sprinter, have him run 26 miles a week; that's such a crazy concept of having an athlete that has a vertical jump of 41+ inches with triple bodyweight back squat, and have him run a 4 minute+ mile, then have the touch and go explosiveness for the 110m hurdles, and still not losing any speed in the 100m or conditioning for 400m. That's not even mentioning the 2m high jump and 8m long jump.

raj rihal 01-28-2011 09:13 AM

If that isn't the epitome of fitness Im not quite sure what is. What is typical decathlete training like?

Andrew Wilson 01-28-2011 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raj rihal (Post 86133)
What is typical decathlete training like?

Training of the best decathletes.

www.decaol.tumblr.com, I need to keep working on that when I get the time

raj rihal 01-28-2011 06:00 PM

how the hell did you get banned in two posts?!

Cain Morano 02-02-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoffrey Thompson (Post 86115)
What about broad time and modal domains? That are unknown and unknowable?"

That means running through the woods, then people jump out at you and start hitting you with bats (the flying kind) and you have to defend yourself with dirt and rocks (new fighting style), THEN you reach a river and have to make a bridge from big rocks and big logs - but you've never been taught how to lift or do those things - and finally escape the marauders and the bats across a river and into another jungle with more restless natives (like Ewoks) waiting in the shadows.

Unknown and unknowable is not whether or not there are going to be muscle ups or power cleans because usually it's wall ball and burpees. I think unknown means 'learn this new motor skill or die' and 'defend yourself against a fighting style you've never seen or die'. But I suppose a more common known/unknown is the type of manual labor we could encounter...

Justin Z. Smith 02-06-2011 08:05 AM

Check out http://www.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/02/05/...ex.html?hpt=C2

Now *that* is elite to me. Can any CrossFitter do that?

Justin


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