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Rob Tenbarge 11-25-2012 07:49 PM

Discrepancy between straps and no straps in snatch
 
I have ditched straps for the last three months and my snatch with straps is still 13 k over without them. 140 to 127. Just wanted some advice to overcome this obstacle. Thanks a million in advance.

Javier Sanjuan 11-26-2012 12:49 AM

Rob,

I think that's natural. The reason being is that with straps, all you have to worry about is pulling and receiving, whereas without straps, you have to add the element of grip and grip strength. Most people I know have a higher snatch number with straps when compared to their sans-straps snatch number.

If you want to try to close the gap, then maybe grip strength in the snatch grip might be your issue barring any considerable deviation in form between the two scenarios (e.g., I once saw a guy that had trouble with an early arm bend, but with the straps, he did just fine). You can work on no-hook grip snatches to work the element of grip strength, along with other execises without the hook grip -- cleans, deadlifts, and pretty much anything you normally hook grip on.

I hope this helps you (and I hope I'm right).

Best,
Javi

Mike Ng 11-26-2012 10:08 PM

This may sound like a overly simple answer, but try consciously relaxing your arms when snatching without straps. With straps you don't have to worry about gripping the bar as tightly and your arms will generally be more relaxed because of this. Without straps you may be "death gripping" the bar which will cause unnecessary tension in the arms which will slow down the turn over/lockout. Bud Charniga talks about this here:

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/sporti...ticles010.html

" For instance, the main reason a lifter is typically able to snatch or clean more weight with straps is because of the less effort and attention to maintain a secure grip.

It is also worth noting that the muscular tension of grasping the bar, especially when it is excessive, has a tendency to "run up the arm." That is to say, muscles other than the actual gripping muscles become involved needlessly. As a result, a "seamless" switch from flexing to extending the arms is met with an "internal resistance" during the instantaneous fixing of the bar in the snatch."

Keith Miller 12-05-2012 10:06 AM

This is exactly the reason I started teaching people to use a hook grip when they're using straps. Closes the gap fairly well, and you still get the benefits.

I agree with the strength work prescribed. As mentioned, try warming up with no hook grip and maintain relaxed arms. Go as heavy as you can until you start noticing/feeling your arms bend. Also, snatch grip deads/pulls with hook grip, no straps will help also.


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