That show clip really made me mad. Those 2 "experts" didn't let him speak at all after he did his initial intro. The last thing I heard was "what is this teaching people, what are they learning." As far as I can recall the standards recommended by most dieticians/experts are pertty awful. What have they taught people, what are people learning?
"And for crying out loud. Don't go into the pain cave. I can't stress this enough. Your Totem Animal won't be in there to help you. You'll be on your own. The Pain Cave is for cowards.
Pain is your companion, don't go hide from it."