can you explain why you think that the asked about products would be useless? Isn't ALA and ALC two very beneficial supplements as far as fat metabolism and anti-oxidants go?
I'm looking for answers beyond google, because I do search and read, I want to hear people's opinions who train like I do.
Keep in mind I don't eat nearly as many veggies as I should so I tend to take the antioxidants to try to "make it somewhat ok"
isn't cayenne great for circulation as well?