Thread: TRT for my Dad
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:33 AM   #6
Jarod Barker
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Originally Posted by Garrett Smith View Post
A couple things.

If he's interested in TRT, it may be an in for you to demonstrate what the smoking is doing to him, in terms of trading something he's already doing (smoking) for what he now wants (perceived benefit of higher testosterone levels).

He will need to get blood (or saliva) hormone tests and likely some other blood panels. I'm guessing he's not one for frequent doctor visits (smokers generally aren't). This could be the first step to showing him the cumulative effects of his habit.

First thing, and possibly the best thing overall, for his health will be things to help oxygenate and distribute bloodflow where it is needed. If he's ever needed something like Viagra, this is an obvious example there are blood flow issues. There are herbal/nutrient combos that can do this.

At least get him on a good dose of fish oil, maybe even some of that Toco-8 vitamin E first. If he won't do that, I wouldn't go much further with it.
Well you've got him pegged. It usually takes an act of God to get him to see a doctor. I remember when he thought he was having a heart attack and flat out refused to go. I can probably count the number of doctor visits we've made in the past decade on one hand.

For some reason though, he trusts my judgement. I'm unaware of any blood flow issues, he had some leg pain a couple years back and got it checked out for DVT or the like, and everything came back great (thankfully). The things I notice most are his decreased muscle mass, he's sleeping more, he has to take more breaks when working, once in a while I'll catch him grabbing his arm or knee, and if we put in a really hard day of work on Saturday, he doesn't have the strength to do it again on Sunday.

I think if I can get him to go in for blood work, then I'd have hard numbers to show him and discuss his health issues. I also think having something quantifiable would be better than just saying, "hey dad, you're getting old." I can tell he's frustrated with his loss of strength, even the fact that he asked me about the commercial he saw tells me he's bothered by it. So, that's probably a good angle to start from.

I've already got him on fish oil, a multi, and ZMA, I'll get him to add some Toco-8 and work from there.

Do you think that if I just get him to quit smoking and supplement appropriately that it would be enough to raise his T levels back to a point where his strength and energy would return?

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