I have a pair of 20k Mavrik plates that are atleast 15-20 years old. Also have three pairs of 35lb Bumper USA plates that are about the same age...And one set of 25lb hi-temps all in my garage with an old texas power bar(?) and a coupe rubber mats for platforms...
I'm sure the Bumper Usa's were red many years ago but they are pretty faded out now and man do they bounce high!! Good for very little noise and keeping the garage floor in good shape, can almost catch them in my hands after dropping them from a clean, ha!!
Now one of the old Mavriks does have a center working loose but we all know thats my fault eh...??
Talked to Leo and he mentioned the werksan black econ training plates, thanks!!