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Old 03-03-2009, 02:13 PM   #1
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What's sad is that most people only regard one aspect of relative strength, bodyweight-to-weight lifted ratio. People at a lighter bodyweight are often at an advantage has they have less bodymass to move with and typically a shorter height necessary to lift the barbell. Hossein Rezazadeh could never CJ triple bodyweight however when you factor in his bodymass of over 135kg, a lot of which is bodyfat, his achievements are just as impressive. Another form of relative strength is weight lifted-to-height. Suleymanoglu only has to pull the bar to Hossein's lower thigh to clean it. The Bulgarian SHW snatching +200kg at Athens, at a height of 6'9" is more impressive than a triple bodyweight CJ. Think about it, he has to take that barbell from the floor to more than eight feet in the air in less than one second, and at such a massive bodyweight. Yet no one takes in to account this relative strength.

So that's my rant.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:08 PM   #2
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Are you tall?
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:30 PM   #3
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Not sure if hes tall, but im fat, and think that the whole concept of "relative strength" is an evil conspiracy.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:58 PM   #4
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Just some plot to make sure people appreciate the smaller/"weaker" guys, Glenn? Lol.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:15 PM   #5
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Not sure if hes tall, but im fat, and think that the whole concept of "relative strength" is an evil conspiracy.
I think I'd take you, rather than Suleymanoglu, to a fight.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:21 PM   #6
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I'm short and skinny, 5'7" 140ibs.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:27 PM   #7
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I'd like to add, when they get around to fixing the sad sport of weightlifting, such as decriminalizing oscilation of the bar in the jerk, the press-out rule and the elbow touch, I hope they will also reform the sinclair system, tie on bodyweight, as well as the weighing system, so that they all take in to account not just weight but height, limb length and cross-sectional area of the muscle. Then people could talk about relative strength, rather than this affirmative action.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:20 PM   #8
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I'm short and skinny, 5'7" 140ibs.
If you're short than Brian and I are midgets. Although Brian is a rather strong Midget at that.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:27 PM   #9
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Not sure if hes tall, but im fat, and think that the whole concept of "relative strength" is an evil conspiracy.
Agreed. It's a conspiracy. "King Kong" would be soooo easy if it weren't for those damn muscle ups.

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Old 03-03-2009, 08:08 PM   #10
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They make bar stools for all sizes and a beer is only a few lbs....that's enough relative strength.
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