Brilliance and muckracking...

Dave Van Skike · 03-25-2009, 05:59 PM

Attain relevance by pitting one obscure sport (Oly) against another only slightly less obscure sport (SM).......

http://sportivnypress.com/documents/100.html

a couple gems..

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The made up strongman events such as the truck pull, tires, kegs, and stones are essentially tests of brute strength with little carry over to any sport but strongman. For instance, none of these “world’s strongest men” competitors listed on the organization’s web site were at the Beijing Olympics. Certainly the functionality of their strongmen events (which, remember, are so functional to football) would easily carry over to two such simple, ordinary, barbell exercises as the snatch and the clean and jerk?

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With tires and beer kegs?

This is such a crock. There is no known connection to throwing beer kegs, picking up stones, and pretend competitions with building mental toughness.

this tells me he's not been invited to the right parties....

It's not fair to cherry pick when someone's raving but I couldn't resist. Hilarity. I wonder what he thinks of poor Misha Koklyaev

Leo Soubbotine · 03-25-2009, 06:27 PM

Hang snatching 200 kilos is for wankers apparently
http://www.youtube.com/user/koklyaevmisha

Brian DeGennaro · 03-25-2009, 07:20 PM

Leo, what the ****.... Is Koklyaev planning to start lifting world records in training before he decides to crap on everyone else on the world level?

Enrique Billington · 03-25-2009, 07:33 PM

Koklayev won't be appearing in competition because unlike strongman and the powerlifting events he competes at, weightlifting involves drug testing. A 200kg hang snatch is impressive but let us not forget this man is seriously juiced, and that it's possible to hang snatch/clean more than you full snatch/clean (thanks to the eccentric movement). I'm pretty sure that a lot of people could hang snatch 200kg if they had the time to snatch all day like Misha does, and of course his access to restoratives. It's stuff like Krastev's 222.5kg training snatch that takes one in six billion.

Dave Van Skike · 03-25-2009, 08:02 PM

that was fast.

"da juice" ears it's ugly head before the 5th post..

Enrique Billington · 03-25-2009, 11:48 PM

I'm not quite sure if I understand where you're coming from; do you suggest that Koklaeyev snatches what he snatches and jerks what he jerks because he does axle cleans and keg lifts? Could it not be that he can hang snatch 200kg because he's has been doing Olympic lifting since he was a child and he takes a ridiculous amount of drugs?

Greg Everett · 03-26-2009, 12:27 PM

I don't think (hope) anyone is intending to disrespect Charniga - As Enrique said, he has done a great deal for the sport and deserves an equal degree of respect. That doesn't mean agreeing with everything he says (or even anything, necessarily), but certainly understanding that he undoubtedly has good reasons for his opinions.

Between this and the other thread, it's a little dodgy with regards to opinions of Charniga himself rather than what he's saying. Let's just try to keep comments focused on the material exclusively.

Dave Van Skike · 03-26-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Everett

I don't think (hope) anyone is intending to disrespect Charniga - As Enrique said, he has done a great deal for the sport and deserves an equal degree of respect. That doesn't mean agreeing with everything he says (or even anything, necessarily), but certainly understanding that he undoubtedly has good reasons for his opinions.

Between this and the other thread, it's a little dodgy with regards to opinions of Charniga himself rather than what he's saying. Let's just try to keep comments focused on the material exclusively.

No disrepect intended on this end for Mr. C or his contribution to his respective sport. I encourage anyone who wants, read the whole article, written by a K. Garrat, for context. I read it as very tongue in cheek, hoorah to the troops sort of thing......(god I hope it was a joke).

The Artilce seems to have caused some apoplexy over at Marunde Muscle, many members of which take SM very seriously. Again, encourage anyone who wants to check some of the training logs over there, many many eye opening approaches to training events along the lines of some of the "hybrid programming" discussed here only with loads and techniques that make your eyes hurt.....