Taurine + ZMA

Steve Shafley · 02-05-2007, 06:46 PM

Taurine is, if anything, even cheaper than ZMA. At Beyond-A-Century it's 300 grams for $5.75, and it's completely tasteless.

I find that if I use 6-9 grams of L-taurine with the ZMA that I don't have that window of opportunity with regards to getting to sleep.

If you have this problem, and I know a few of you do, try taking 9 grams of taurine before bed. If that works, titrate it down to the least effective dose. IIRC, 1 teaspoon = ~3 grams of L-taurine.

For some reason the L-taurine itself helps me with sleep. At one point in time I knew why, but I don't anymore, and I'm too lazy to look it up at this time.

Cheap fix for a common problem.

Mike ODonnell · 02-05-2007, 07:19 PM

"Taurine also functions as a neuroregulator and nerve cell growth factor. It promotes a calming effect by inhibiting the release of norepinephrine and acetylcholine, and stimulating the release of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA). Taurine increases the production of serotonin and melatonin by stimulating the activity of N-acetyltransferase, resulting in normalization of sleep and nerve functioning."

or something like that....good tip

Robb Wolf · 02-06-2007, 06:56 AM

Good stuff! I forgot about Taurine...used it years ago. MOD- you big smarty pants!

Mike ODonnell · 02-06-2007, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Robb Wolf

MOD- you big smarty pants!

My evil plan is working....thanks to Google and Cut and Paste technology I appear to become the ruling expert so only to sell more of my E-Books....wait....am I thinking out loud again....damn unfreezing process...

Ronnie Ashlock · 02-06-2007, 07:35 AM

Is this the same taurine that's touted as the magical ingredient in Red Bull (and has it's origins from bull liver but is now synthesised in labs)?

Allen Yeh · 03-14-2007, 10:49 AM

Steve,

How has the taurine+ZMA going for you? I just switched to the biotest brand ZMA last week and the past 2 nights if I get woken up at all I'm awake for hours, tired but unable to fall asleep.

I was originally taking the GNC ZMA (2 months) which was Zinc arginate as opposed to the biotest brand which is aspartate. That's the only difference really between the 2 products, I think.

Dave Van Skike · 04-09-2007, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Shafley

Taurine is, if anything, even cheaper than ZMA. At Beyond-A-Century it's 300 grams for $5.75, and it's completely tasteless.

I find that if I use 6-9 grams of L-taurine with the ZMA that I don't have that window of opportunity with regards to getting to sleep.

If you have this problem, and I know a few of you do, try taking 9 grams of taurine before bed. If that works, titrate it down to the least effective dose. IIRC, 1 teaspoon = ~3 grams of L-taurine.

For some reason the L-taurine itself helps me with sleep. At one point in time I knew why, but I don't anymore, and I'm too lazy to look it up at this time.

Cheap fix for a common problem.

Smart. Will give that a try.

Pierre Auge · 04-09-2007, 07:48 PM

WEIRDEST THING EVER JUST HAPPENED!!!

I took some ZMA tabs about 5 minutes ago swallowed them down at least I thought I had with a big glass of water. I just caughed and I guess half of one of the tabs was caught in the back of my throat without me noticing??? I caughed, sneezed and a big puff of white powder blew out of my nose then the tab fell down the back of my throat.

Where the fk the tab was I don't know and how the fk it got there even less but geeeze that was weird!

Steve Shafley · 04-10-2007, 05:10 AM

Ha! It was in your sinuses.

A few times a year, I will get some food or something up in my sinuses and I have to blow it out my nose. Interesting party trick, though often painful.

Allen Yeh · 04-10-2007, 07:03 AM

I ended uo getting used to the Biotest ZMA, that first week though was very sleepless. My only guess was that my body was able to notice a difference between the types of Zinc being used? (A lame guess to be sure but everything else was pretty much the same, well the same as much as having 3 kids can be).

I hate to say it but I do like the Biotest ZMA much better than the GNC stuff, not to mention the fact that the Biotest stuff doesn't STINK like I have no idea what!