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Old 07-28-2010, 05:04 AM   #1
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Does anybody know where to find a comprehensive list of BJJ techniques? logging BJJ training can be difficult without names of techniques as describing the moves often doesn't translate well when read back.

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Old 07-28-2010, 10:43 AM   #2
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that can be a hard request since so many names are not standard. my new instructor is an old school black belt, so most the time he has no idea the names i'm using for moves (he knows all the moves, just not the names i'm using).

funny example: i always call this move a genie armbar (from whatever position, not just this one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oikWewjLG_U
because one of the main ways to finish it involves putting your hands on your elbows and crunching down, just like you're doing the "i dream of genie" wish motion. it's not until a few years of calling it this that i find out nobody outside my club calls it that.

best bet to get the most common name is to find the move on youtube and see what most people call it in their vids.
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:37 PM   #3
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That's what i'm finding Grissim. The second variation in that vid I would have called a farside armbar which is what the title was. I've managed to find a few judo techniques with the traditional Japanese names for Newaza techniques and many of them are used http://judoinfo.com/techdrw.htm, but i thought there might have been something out there for BJJ.

Here is the name for the genie armbar. Ude-hishighi-ude-gatame (upper cross arm armlock)
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Old 07-28-2010, 03:47 PM   #4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5-x1x2ColM Just found this on youtube searching for newaza technniques. There's more in the video bar as well. Pretty cool!
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:29 PM   #5
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it makes more sense in judo since all countries are supposed to use the japanese names for the throws. seems harder with BJJ since you have multiple language transitions followed by eddie bravo giving a name to every damn minute position you could possibly get into. add into that people using names from wrestling and sambo, and you've got so many language transitions that stuff is bound the get tricky. for example, scott sonnon has an entire dvd on mastering the saddle position, which is just a derivative of the 50/50 guard (i guess in sambo they call the 50/50 the side saddle or something).

the isolated club nomenclature is also considerable. my own experience with the "genie armbar" is a small example, but apparently this is what caused the whole switch from "brabo" choke to "darce" choke. i can't remember the story correctly, but basically nobody was brabo choking much for many years, and then a guy comes into a high level club and chokes everybody out with it. they start referring to the choke after that guy, and then the choke becomes big in tournaments, so everybody calls it the darce choke now.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:04 AM   #6
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When I think about it like that it makes more sense. BJJ has evolved so much to include techniques from other ground based martial arts that are useful and I guess a lot of it can be left up to interpretation. As you say there are also a lot of language transitions that are going to make things tricky too.

Mate, you've just made me realise that the darce and Brabo are the same thing!! The reason I thought they were different is because for the brabo I use their gi to control the arm first and I've only ever used the Darce no-gi when people try to get to their side from side control. I guess i've not tried it this way in the gi because of the friction, but thanks for that, you learn something or a few things new everyday
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